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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Things I Missed Over the Holidays&#8221; PRESENTS! The Complex and Sophisticated Politics of James Cameron</title>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
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		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s like Das Kapital, with boats.&quot;

And how would Madam like her Internets, and where shall they be delivered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s like Das Kapital, with boats.&#8221;</p>
<p>And how would Madam like her Internets, and where shall they be delivered?</p>
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		<title>By: kalmiopsis</title>
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		<dc:creator>kalmiopsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Sady.  

Thought you may enjoy this synopsis:

http://imgur.com/JmRmb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Sady.  </p>
<p>Thought you may enjoy this synopsis:</p>
<p><a href="http://imgur.com/JmRmb" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/JmRmb</a></p>
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		<title>By: snobographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>snobographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Amanda - I&#039;d start with the fact that it&#039;s Playboy. And then that he&#039;s perpetuating what he admits he realizes is a problem by writing female characters to cater exclusively to dudes, particularly dudes who don&#039;t want to have to deal with &quot;real women.&quot; And that &quot;You can try your whole life and not understand them&quot; line is the cherry on top.
That&#039;s a handy quote to bring out in all those discussions about what a feminist Cameron is though. Sarah Connor in T2 was a fluke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amanda &#8211; I&#8217;d start with the fact that it&#8217;s Playboy. And then that he&#8217;s perpetuating what he admits he realizes is a problem by writing female characters to cater exclusively to dudes, particularly dudes who don&#8217;t want to have to deal with &#8220;real women.&#8221; And that &#8220;You can try your whole life and not understand them&#8221; line is the cherry on top.<br />
That&#8217;s a handy quote to bring out in all those discussions about what a feminist Cameron is though. Sarah Connor in T2 was a fluke.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron&#039;s actual interview with Playboy is even more entertaining. For instance, this excerpt in which he describes why he purposefully created an unrealistic ideal female lead:

&quot;Most of men&#039;s problems with women probably have to do with realizing women are real and most of them don’t look or act like Vampirella. A big recalibration happens when we’re forced to deal with real women, and there’s a certain geek population that would much rather deal with fantasy women than real women. Let’s face it: Real women are complicated. You can try your whole life and not understand them.&quot;

It&#039;s just offensive on so many levels I don&#039;t even know where to begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron&#8217;s actual interview with Playboy is even more entertaining. For instance, this excerpt in which he describes why he purposefully created an unrealistic ideal female lead:</p>
<p>&#8220;Most of men&#8217;s problems with women probably have to do with realizing women are real and most of them don’t look or act like Vampirella. A big recalibration happens when we’re forced to deal with real women, and there’s a certain geek population that would much rather deal with fantasy women than real women. Let’s face it: Real women are complicated. You can try your whole life and not understand them.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just offensive on so many levels I don&#8217;t even know where to begin.</p>
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		<title>By: Athena Andreadis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athena Andreadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word! My contribution to the sheer shock and awe that is Avatar:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/athena-andreadis-phd/camerons-iavatari-jar-jar_b_402576.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Jar Jar Binks Meets Pocahontas&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word! My contribution to the sheer shock and awe that is Avatar:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/athena-andreadis-phd/camerons-iavatari-jar-jar_b_402576.html" rel="nofollow"> Jar Jar Binks Meets Pocahontas</a></p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by airgonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by airgonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: snobographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>snobographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trite and offensive plot aside, I&#039;m just sick of CGI. It&#039;s overused. You can make a totally crap movie anymore and get a Best Pic nomination just for making it look pretty with them newfangled computer contraptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trite and offensive plot aside, I&#8217;m just sick of CGI. It&#8217;s overused. You can make a totally crap movie anymore and get a Best Pic nomination just for making it look pretty with them newfangled computer contraptions.</p>
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		<title>By: emjaybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>emjaybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a quote somewhere where Cameron admitted that he &quot;had&quot; to give the female Na&#039;vi breasts, even though it made no sense since they weren&#039;t &quot;placental mammals&quot;. He HAD to. It was Hollywood Law.

I noticed it was also Hollywood Law to have the species be gender-dysmorphic in the same way (males bigger than females) as humans are. Also quadrupeds who walked on their hind legs. Blah blah blah. I mean, Star Trek did this too with the whole Aliens = Humans with Funny Skin and/or Foreheads meme, but at least that got started way back in the 60s, when they didn&#039;t have CGI. Real aliens wouldn&#039;t be just humans that looked like blue supermodels, more than likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a quote somewhere where Cameron admitted that he &#8220;had&#8221; to give the female Na&#8217;vi breasts, even though it made no sense since they weren&#8217;t &#8220;placental mammals&#8221;. He HAD to. It was Hollywood Law.</p>
<p>I noticed it was also Hollywood Law to have the species be gender-dysmorphic in the same way (males bigger than females) as humans are. Also quadrupeds who walked on their hind legs. Blah blah blah. I mean, Star Trek did this too with the whole Aliens = Humans with Funny Skin and/or Foreheads meme, but at least that got started way back in the 60s, when they didn&#8217;t have CGI. Real aliens wouldn&#8217;t be just humans that looked like blue supermodels, more than likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Farore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, me too.  Hee!

My discussion with my roommate, who went to see Avatar in theaters (I&#039;ll be waiting til it&#039;s out on div&#039;d, thanks) was kinda-sorta along these lines.

Him: Avatar was AMAZING!
Me: You do realize that the plot is basically just the same tired old trash about &#039;going native&#039; and how white men and corporations are evil, right?
Him: I dunno, I wasn&#039;t paying attention to the plot.  I was just looking at the cat people.

**TIME PASSES**

Him: Hey remember that stuff you said about the plot of Avatar?
Me: Yes... ?
Him: I thought about it, and holy shit, you are right, that movie was pretty but it is amazingly offensive when you take the plot away from the graphics.
Me: TA DA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, me too.  Hee!</p>
<p>My discussion with my roommate, who went to see Avatar in theaters (I&#8217;ll be waiting til it&#8217;s out on div&#8217;d, thanks) was kinda-sorta along these lines.</p>
<p>Him: Avatar was AMAZING!<br />
Me: You do realize that the plot is basically just the same tired old trash about &#8216;going native&#8217; and how white men and corporations are evil, right?<br />
Him: I dunno, I wasn&#8217;t paying attention to the plot.  I was just looking at the cat people.</p>
<p>**TIME PASSES**</p>
<p>Him: Hey remember that stuff you said about the plot of Avatar?<br />
Me: Yes&#8230; ?<br />
Him: I thought about it, and holy shit, you are right, that movie was pretty but it is amazingly offensive when you take the plot away from the graphics.<br />
Me: TA DA!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a kick out of the idea that a movie made with half a billion dollars worth of the latest and greatest equipment/techniques/etc. could try to sell us on the idea that technology is bad. BAD I SAY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a kick out of the idea that a movie made with half a billion dollars worth of the latest and greatest equipment/techniques/etc. could try to sell us on the idea that technology is bad. BAD I SAY!</p>
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