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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/01/01/dear-kristen-stewart/comment-page-1/#comment-4604</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised you focus so much on Stewart without mentioning her undead counterpart. When I was coerced into seeing Twilight (I&#039;m a good boyfriend), I couldn&#039;t believe how little Edward (I don&#039;t care enough to look up the actor&#039;s name) showed emotion. I mean, granted, he&#039;s a vampire. But I was shocked that he managed to get any lines out of the rigamortis in his face. The two of them were practically made for each other, in a creepy dehumanizing sort of way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you focus so much on Stewart without mentioning her undead counterpart. When I was coerced into seeing Twilight (I&#8217;m a good boyfriend), I couldn&#8217;t believe how little Edward (I don&#8217;t care enough to look up the actor&#8217;s name) showed emotion. I mean, granted, he&#8217;s a vampire. But I was shocked that he managed to get any lines out of the rigamortis in his face. The two of them were practically made for each other, in a creepy dehumanizing sort of way.</p>
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		<title>By: Justyna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god. I just laughed so hard I couldn&#039;t stop!
That&#039;s so true what you write. I had a friend once with the same facial issue( well unless Kristen&#039;s issue is botox)but he at least was not an actor, just an IT guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god. I just laughed so hard I couldn&#8217;t stop!<br />
That&#8217;s so true what you write. I had a friend once with the same facial issue( well unless Kristen&#8217;s issue is botox)but he at least was not an actor, just an IT guy.</p>
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		<title>By: CJP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true!</description>
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		<title>By: kristyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJP, true facts. However, I feel like, since no one seems to take me seriously as a human being because of these messy emotions that are attached to the stigma of mental illness and to the dreaded Hysteria ... it will be pretty hard for me to change the world. Not that I&#039;m not going to try.

If I didn&#039;t have a vagina, though, I could be Jack Kerouac or Hunter S. Thompson. Hey, remember Hunter S.? He was crazy emotional all over everything, and while people DID call him crazy, some passionately loved him anyway. 
The odds are heavily in favor that he would have gone to a loony bin if he&#039;d been born without a dick. The female equivalent of Kerouac did. And then she flung herself out of a fourth-story window because she was no longer allowed to write. It was considered unfeminine. There are definite parallels to certain situations that arise to this day, is what I&#039;m saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJP, true facts. However, I feel like, since no one seems to take me seriously as a human being because of these messy emotions that are attached to the stigma of mental illness and to the dreaded Hysteria &#8230; it will be pretty hard for me to change the world. Not that I&#8217;m not going to try.</p>
<p>If I didn&#8217;t have a vagina, though, I could be Jack Kerouac or Hunter S. Thompson. Hey, remember Hunter S.? He was crazy emotional all over everything, and while people DID call him crazy, some passionately loved him anyway.<br />
The odds are heavily in favor that he would have gone to a loony bin if he&#8217;d been born without a dick. The female equivalent of Kerouac did. And then she flung herself out of a fourth-story window because she was no longer allowed to write. It was considered unfeminine. There are definite parallels to certain situations that arise to this day, is what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
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		<title>By: CJP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thusly are repressive social relations maintained, through the emotional and symbolic costs of naming them for what they are.  So, good for you, for putting yourself out there - it helps to change the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thusly are repressive social relations maintained, through the emotional and symbolic costs of naming them for what they are.  So, good for you, for putting yourself out there &#8211; it helps to change the world.</p>
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		<title>By: CJP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristyn - I&#039;ve noticed that people trying to repress their own emotions often get upset by those who don&#039;t because it makes maintaining their own repression more difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristyn &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that people trying to repress their own emotions often get upset by those who don&#8217;t because it makes maintaining their own repression more difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: bex</title>
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		<dc:creator>bex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problems with moving one&#039;s face, when one is an ingenue in hollywood, is of course that what produces &quot;expressions&quot; also has a tendency to produce what are known as &quot;lines&quot;, and everyone knows that having a face that is less plastic-ly smooth than barbie in hollywood is a CAREER-ENDING DISASTER, since there are only enough older*-yet-not-grannyfied roles to keep one actress busy at a time, and Meryl Streep got there first.

(*which is to say, over 23)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problems with moving one&#8217;s face, when one is an ingenue in hollywood, is of course that what produces &#8220;expressions&#8221; also has a tendency to produce what are known as &#8220;lines&#8221;, and everyone knows that having a face that is less plastic-ly smooth than barbie in hollywood is a CAREER-ENDING DISASTER, since there are only enough older*-yet-not-grannyfied roles to keep one actress busy at a time, and Meryl Streep got there first.</p>
<p>(*which is to say, over 23)</p>
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		<title>By: kristyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;Word to the young: if your love object seems so cool that they are UNRUFFLED BY ANYTHING, assume that they are in fact VERY DEEPLY RUFFLED ABOUT MANY THINGS BUT EXISTENTIALLY AFRAID TO LET IT SHOW. Because, as the Buddhists say, life is suffering, and anyone who doesn’t show it is hiding it, and you have to ask why.&#039;&#039;

Genius observation, and ever so true. It evokes an exchange from the Bob Dylan movie by Todd Haynes! About how maybe the whole projection of nonchalance by hipsterlike people is perhaps just a defense mechanism to make them look cool! And incidentally about the fact that Bob Dylan was pretty much of a d-bag.

Personally, I try to express emotions that I feel, because the other option is not as healthy for me. But that tends to get me branded as crazy. I&#039;m not sure why, entirely. Maybe it forces people to confront my humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Word to the young: if your love object seems so cool that they are UNRUFFLED BY ANYTHING, assume that they are in fact VERY DEEPLY RUFFLED ABOUT MANY THINGS BUT EXISTENTIALLY AFRAID TO LET IT SHOW. Because, as the Buddhists say, life is suffering, and anyone who doesn’t show it is hiding it, and you have to ask why.&#8221;</p>
<p>Genius observation, and ever so true. It evokes an exchange from the Bob Dylan movie by Todd Haynes! About how maybe the whole projection of nonchalance by hipsterlike people is perhaps just a defense mechanism to make them look cool! And incidentally about the fact that Bob Dylan was pretty much of a d-bag.</p>
<p>Personally, I try to express emotions that I feel, because the other option is not as healthy for me. But that tends to get me branded as crazy. I&#8217;m not sure why, entirely. Maybe it forces people to confront my humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: CJP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your cut-ups of all things Twilight are so awesomely hilarious that I may have to actually see Twilight so that I can laugh all the more.

I think that point of that vacant stare is to allow the naive viewer to project onto that person whatever emotions they, the viewer, wants them to be having. Hence the popularity of such actors, lady or otherwise, over actors who can project highly specific emotions (also called &quot;better actors&quot;).  Hence also the unfortunate popularity of such individuals in the dating lives of kind tenderhearted souls. 

(Word to the young: if your love object seems so cool that they are UNRUFFLED BY ANYTHING, assume that they are in fact VERY DEEPLY RUFFLED ABOUT MANY THINGS BUT EXISTENTIALLY AFRAID TO LET IT SHOW. Because, as the Buddhists say, life is suffering, and anyone who doesn&#039;t show it is hiding it, and you have to ask why.)

However, this explanation (blank faces reflect our desired back at us) does not at all invalidate your point, given that, as long as we continue to live in a sexist culture, the use of men&#039;s faces (and bodies) as blank screens on which to project the viewers&#039; fantasies will remain, relatively, an EXCEPTION while similar use of women remains, unfortunately, the NORM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your cut-ups of all things Twilight are so awesomely hilarious that I may have to actually see Twilight so that I can laugh all the more.</p>
<p>I think that point of that vacant stare is to allow the naive viewer to project onto that person whatever emotions they, the viewer, wants them to be having. Hence the popularity of such actors, lady or otherwise, over actors who can project highly specific emotions (also called &#8220;better actors&#8221;).  Hence also the unfortunate popularity of such individuals in the dating lives of kind tenderhearted souls. </p>
<p>(Word to the young: if your love object seems so cool that they are UNRUFFLED BY ANYTHING, assume that they are in fact VERY DEEPLY RUFFLED ABOUT MANY THINGS BUT EXISTENTIALLY AFRAID TO LET IT SHOW. Because, as the Buddhists say, life is suffering, and anyone who doesn&#8217;t show it is hiding it, and you have to ask why.)</p>
<p>However, this explanation (blank faces reflect our desired back at us) does not at all invalidate your point, given that, as long as we continue to live in a sexist culture, the use of men&#8217;s faces (and bodies) as blank screens on which to project the viewers&#8217; fantasies will remain, relatively, an EXCEPTION while similar use of women remains, unfortunately, the NORM.</p>
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		<title>By: kristyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your analysis of the pseudo-indie girl as a character, and as someone who is a real-life genuine indie girl and has dated/considered dating a lot of indie guys, I feel that this is very accurate. It relates to this quote by RLC.

&#039;&#039;On the other hand, I was always a quirky and cynical girl (with odd bouts of wit and Troubled Artistry) and *that* was never seen as charming or sexy…it seemed to me that people saw those characteristics as adorable in guys but weird or boring or depressing in girls.&#039;&#039;

True facts, to which I can personally relate. Indie boys, especially quirky cynical witty and/or troubled indie boys, don&#039;t always like those same traits in girls. Or even any traits at all. Many of them like stony-faced, dead-eyed, emaciated waifs who occasionally crack sardonic one-liners before retreating into a disinterested haze. Sometimes they substitute &#039;&#039;sweet and random&#039;&#039; for &#039;&#039;sardonic&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;perky&#039;&#039; for &#039;&#039;disinterested.&#039;&#039; For the first archetype, see Kristen Stewart. For the second, Zooey Deschanel.

When these boys are reminded that they are talking to or drinking with or fucking a real live girl who has real live opinions and feelings, whether by her anger or her laughter or her words or her leg hair or GEZUS CHRIST her facial expressions, they get weirded out and retreat. I think those guys secretly wish they were fucking a RealDoll that has Nico&#039;s face and a Karen O haircut.

This is probably because a lot of modern &#039;&#039;indie&#039;&#039; guys are actually middle- to upper-middle-class white guys who grow up surrounded by decidely un-indie guys who beat up sensitive guys and jerked off to Maxim or to anime. Some actually were those guys, before they realized how popular Conor Oberst was with women.

Viewed through that lens, it all becomes much easier to understand. Also much harder to get dates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your analysis of the pseudo-indie girl as a character, and as someone who is a real-life genuine indie girl and has dated/considered dating a lot of indie guys, I feel that this is very accurate. It relates to this quote by RLC.</p>
<p>&#8221;On the other hand, I was always a quirky and cynical girl (with odd bouts of wit and Troubled Artistry) and *that* was never seen as charming or sexy…it seemed to me that people saw those characteristics as adorable in guys but weird or boring or depressing in girls.&#8221;</p>
<p>True facts, to which I can personally relate. Indie boys, especially quirky cynical witty and/or troubled indie boys, don&#8217;t always like those same traits in girls. Or even any traits at all. Many of them like stony-faced, dead-eyed, emaciated waifs who occasionally crack sardonic one-liners before retreating into a disinterested haze. Sometimes they substitute &#8221;sweet and random&#8221; for &#8221;sardonic&#8221; and &#8221;perky&#8221; for &#8221;disinterested.&#8221; For the first archetype, see Kristen Stewart. For the second, Zooey Deschanel.</p>
<p>When these boys are reminded that they are talking to or drinking with or fucking a real live girl who has real live opinions and feelings, whether by her anger or her laughter or her words or her leg hair or GEZUS CHRIST her facial expressions, they get weirded out and retreat. I think those guys secretly wish they were fucking a RealDoll that has Nico&#8217;s face and a Karen O haircut.</p>
<p>This is probably because a lot of modern &#8221;indie&#8221; guys are actually middle- to upper-middle-class white guys who grow up surrounded by decidely un-indie guys who beat up sensitive guys and jerked off to Maxim or to anime. Some actually were those guys, before they realized how popular Conor Oberst was with women.</p>
<p>Viewed through that lens, it all becomes much easier to understand. Also much harder to get dates.</p>
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