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		<title>By: CassieC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CassieC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Tiger, why did you have to do this to me? I have a busy work day, but must somehow also spend it reading all your archives. 

My bf, such as he is, is a HUGE Philip Roth and John Updike fan. HUGE. I told him that if Roth were less of a whiny entitled asshole, he would have gotten laid more, and we would be spared his on-page whinniness. Now I can send him this link! Entertainment will ensue. Many many thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Tiger, why did you have to do this to me? I have a busy work day, but must somehow also spend it reading all your archives. </p>
<p>My bf, such as he is, is a HUGE Philip Roth and John Updike fan. HUGE. I told him that if Roth were less of a whiny entitled asshole, he would have gotten laid more, and we would be spared his on-page whinniness. Now I can send him this link! Entertainment will ensue. Many many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: emjaybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>emjaybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sady, can I just thank you for the Franzen snark? That couch thing has bothered me forever...also when I realized I was reading yet *another* story of aging academic white dude with a student totally hot for him, my eyes rolled completely out of my head. By the end, I was yelling for the dad to just DIE already, and make it all be over. 

Dear aging white male academics; most young girls do not want your bods. It&#039;s creepy. Stop already. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sady, can I just thank you for the Franzen snark? That couch thing has bothered me forever&#8230;also when I realized I was reading yet *another* story of aging academic white dude with a student totally hot for him, my eyes rolled completely out of my head. By the end, I was yelling for the dad to just DIE already, and make it all be over. </p>
<p>Dear aging white male academics; most young girls do not want your bods. It&#8217;s creepy. Stop already. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ronnie: Hi, Ronnie! Thanks for weighing in with your many opinions on what I should and should not write about! I&#039;m always enthused to hear them, particularly when the person in question types their little comments out as if they are unaware that I personally read, approve, and frequently respond to each comment on my blog! 

Also: me so sorry me dumb for have addiction to legal widely-available substance me use since age eleven. Ronnie smart for point this out. Me never hear smoking bad for me before! Me never advised to quit in condescending tone by stranger! Me never try quit multiple times, me never defeated by fact me addiction have less successful quit rate than many illegal addictive substances! Ronnie FIRST PERSON for present this perspective! Ronnie FRIENNNNNNND. 

Anyway, since we&#039;re besties, I think it&#039;s time that I tell you I&#039;m getting pretty tired of writing this &quot;Tiger Beatdown&quot; thing. How about you come on over and do it for me? You know, since you could clearly do a better job than I. Heck, maybe you&#039;d like my lungs, too? I&#039;d gladly throw them in as part of the package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ronnie: Hi, Ronnie! Thanks for weighing in with your many opinions on what I should and should not write about! I&#8217;m always enthused to hear them, particularly when the person in question types their little comments out as if they are unaware that I personally read, approve, and frequently respond to each comment on my blog! </p>
<p>Also: me so sorry me dumb for have addiction to legal widely-available substance me use since age eleven. Ronnie smart for point this out. Me never hear smoking bad for me before! Me never advised to quit in condescending tone by stranger! Me never try quit multiple times, me never defeated by fact me addiction have less successful quit rate than many illegal addictive substances! Ronnie FIRST PERSON for present this perspective! Ronnie FRIENNNNNNND. </p>
<p>Anyway, since we&#8217;re besties, I think it&#8217;s time that I tell you I&#8217;m getting pretty tired of writing this &#8220;Tiger Beatdown&#8221; thing. How about you come on over and do it for me? You know, since you could clearly do a better job than I. Heck, maybe you&#8217;d like my lungs, too? I&#8217;d gladly throw them in as part of the package.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh, I wish Sady (great writer) and the other feminist bloggers could go 2 days without mentioning Tucker, but apparently they just cant do it.  Of course they smoke too, so how smart is THAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, I wish Sady (great writer) and the other feminist bloggers could go 2 days without mentioning Tucker, but apparently they just cant do it.  Of course they smoke too, so how smart is THAT.</p>
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		<title>By: attack_laurel</title>
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		<dc:creator>attack_laurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I remember from &lt;i&gt;Tropic of Cancer&lt;/i&gt; was the scene where one guy takes a crap in the bidet.  It was boring, as I recall, even to a sex-starved college student.

Katy Rolphie writes only for the male gaze.  Sure, she thinks she&#039;s writing for women, but only to tell us what the men are thinking.  And apparently, Roth and Updike are throwing an epic wobbly over how no-one&#039;s paying attention to their man-porn rapey-type fantasies any more.

Why were they considered great writers?  Oh, right.  Because they were all angry (not so) young white men, the only Authentic[tm] voice of the age.  

Rolphie is a male apologist and cheerleader.  She writes so that the men who read her pieces are reassured that the womenfolk are only thinking about babies and men and sex with men at all times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I remember from <i>Tropic of Cancer</i> was the scene where one guy takes a crap in the bidet.  It was boring, as I recall, even to a sex-starved college student.</p>
<p>Katy Rolphie writes only for the male gaze.  Sure, she thinks she&#8217;s writing for women, but only to tell us what the men are thinking.  And apparently, Roth and Updike are throwing an epic wobbly over how no-one&#8217;s paying attention to their man-porn rapey-type fantasies any more.</p>
<p>Why were they considered great writers?  Oh, right.  Because they were all angry (not so) young white men, the only Authentic[tm] voice of the age.  </p>
<p>Rolphie is a male apologist and cheerleader.  She writes so that the men who read her pieces are reassured that the womenfolk are only thinking about babies and men and sex with men at all times.</p>
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		<title>By: Avery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s worth noting that Phillip Roth&#039;s &quot;Humbling&quot; also earned him a Bad Sex Award Nomination: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/nov/18/bad-sex-awards-roth

Personally, I was pulling for Oz (having been forced to read &quot;Rhyming Life and Death&quot; against my will). 

@Taybeh Chaser

&quot;other times I’m 95% sure I’m reading the slobberings of a lying hetero cis-dude who thinks he knows what women want based on what a couple of his exes liked or due to his own encyclopedic familiarity with internet porn&quot;

Once while reading a short story published by Small Romance House Which Shall Go Unnamed, I had the lovely experience of running smack into, out of the blue, breathless descriptions of the female love interest&#039;s shaved pubic area and her thrill for the cock (with bonus cat!fights over said cock and the reduction of women to their genitals in conversation). 

Nothing against women who swing that way, but my encyclopedic experience with bad Internet porn says &quot;all signs point to Dude,&quot; in spite of the female penname.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s worth noting that Phillip Roth&#8217;s &#8220;Humbling&#8221; also earned him a Bad Sex Award Nomination: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/nov/18/bad-sex-awards-roth" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/nov/18/bad-sex-awards-roth</a></p>
<p>Personally, I was pulling for Oz (having been forced to read &#8220;Rhyming Life and Death&#8221; against my will). </p>
<p>@Taybeh Chaser</p>
<p>&#8220;other times I’m 95% sure I’m reading the slobberings of a lying hetero cis-dude who thinks he knows what women want based on what a couple of his exes liked or due to his own encyclopedic familiarity with internet porn&#8221;</p>
<p>Once while reading a short story published by Small Romance House Which Shall Go Unnamed, I had the lovely experience of running smack into, out of the blue, breathless descriptions of the female love interest&#8217;s shaved pubic area and her thrill for the cock (with bonus cat!fights over said cock and the reduction of women to their genitals in conversation). </p>
<p>Nothing against women who swing that way, but my encyclopedic experience with bad Internet porn says &#8220;all signs point to Dude,&#8221; in spite of the female penname.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read The Humbling, and what&#039;s excerpted here looks pretty shitty, but one of the things I object to about Rolphie&#039;s essay is that she&#039;s reducing Roth et al. to just sexual writers. I think she actually gets right that one of Roth&#039;s strengths is that he&#039;s fearless about his own  repugnancy, but that carries over to how he writes about Jewish identity, like the anti-Semetic workout tape in Operation Shylock. I can understand not liking him, or finding his work repulsive and sexist (I don&#039;t on the first, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s created any great female characters, which even outwardly sexist artists like Nabokov have been capable.) But he&#039;s about more that self-titilation. 


One other thing Rolphie omits is any gay male writers, past or present. She mentions Michael Chabon&#039;s &quot;Mysteries of Pittsburgh&quot; only in passing, and you&#039;d never know from there that the primary sexual relationship in the book is between two men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read The Humbling, and what&#8217;s excerpted here looks pretty shitty, but one of the things I object to about Rolphie&#8217;s essay is that she&#8217;s reducing Roth et al. to just sexual writers. I think she actually gets right that one of Roth&#8217;s strengths is that he&#8217;s fearless about his own  repugnancy, but that carries over to how he writes about Jewish identity, like the anti-Semetic workout tape in Operation Shylock. I can understand not liking him, or finding his work repulsive and sexist (I don&#8217;t on the first, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s created any great female characters, which even outwardly sexist artists like Nabokov have been capable.) But he&#8217;s about more that self-titilation. </p>
<p>One other thing Rolphie omits is any gay male writers, past or present. She mentions Michael Chabon&#8217;s &#8220;Mysteries of Pittsburgh&#8221; only in passing, and you&#8217;d never know from there that the primary sexual relationship in the book is between two men.</p>
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		<title>By: Sady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@al_zorra: Um, can we please not post comments on smacking bitches because you disagree with them on my feminist blog? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@al_zorra: Um, can we please not post comments on smacking bitches because you disagree with them on my feminist blog? Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analysis. I read the Roiphe article earlier today (first encounter with the author) in the New York Times book review, and was rather thrown. The direct downplaying of sex as conquest, the blase rejection of authors criticizing the frat obsession with sex as great literature--I had a gut reaction for the whole thing as very disturbing. I&#039;d had some issues articulating my objections (not having read much of any of the cited authors, for one thing) and thanks for a typically insightful and amusing overturn of this stance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis. I read the Roiphe article earlier today (first encounter with the author) in the New York Times book review, and was rather thrown. The direct downplaying of sex as conquest, the blase rejection of authors criticizing the frat obsession with sex as great literature&#8211;I had a gut reaction for the whole thing as very disturbing. I&#8217;d had some issues articulating my objections (not having read much of any of the cited authors, for one thing) and thanks for a typically insightful and amusing overturn of this stance.</p>
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		<title>By: al_zorra</title>
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		<dc:creator>al_zorra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This KR -- What I&#039;d have given to have had a mom like hers.

As my mom was certain I should do nothing but bake bread from yeast and knead it myself etc. ,etc., etc., etc., while always picking up to help the &#039;men&#039; for no pay, though my brother and male cousins got paid for doing exactly what I did to &#039;help out,&#039; and etc. etc. etc.

I just want to pull the byatch in and byatch slap her for her ignorance -- and tell her like I&#039;d like to tell all feminists of whatever age and gender that still almost all agri biz is performed by women and men still get all the profit.

Gads, the lengths byatches with silver spoons will go to show they are better than the rest of us, even to reactionary ....

Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This KR &#8212; What I&#8217;d have given to have had a mom like hers.</p>
<p>As my mom was certain I should do nothing but bake bread from yeast and knead it myself etc. ,etc., etc., etc., while always picking up to help the &#8216;men&#8217; for no pay, though my brother and male cousins got paid for doing exactly what I did to &#8216;help out,&#8217; and etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>I just want to pull the byatch in and byatch slap her for her ignorance &#8212; and tell her like I&#8217;d like to tell all feminists of whatever age and gender that still almost all agri biz is performed by women and men still get all the profit.</p>
<p>Gads, the lengths byatches with silver spoons will go to show they are better than the rest of us, even to reactionary &#8230;.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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