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	<title>Comments on: TALES OF TERROR: My Mild Dislike for Sex and the City 2</title>
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		<title>By: Yaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly for me, the part where the Muslim women turn out to be dressed elegantly under their hijabs is reminiscent of one chapter of &quot;Not Without My Daughter&quot;, where the American woman goes to a women-only religious event and is surprised to find everybody dressed in sophisticated European fashion. Maybe that&#039;s where the writers got the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly for me, the part where the Muslim women turn out to be dressed elegantly under their hijabs is reminiscent of one chapter of &#8220;Not Without My Daughter&#8221;, where the American woman goes to a women-only religious event and is surprised to find everybody dressed in sophisticated European fashion. Maybe that&#8217;s where the writers got the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, not so erudite. I meant to say in conclusion that not liking fashion doesn’t make anyone cooler or more feminist than someone who likes it. Not that I think you implied that in your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, not so erudite. I meant to say in conclusion that not liking fashion doesn’t make anyone cooler or more feminist than someone who likes it. Not that I think you implied that in your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not going to see SATC2, unless I&#039;m really bored one day and it happens to be on HBO.  Pretty much, for all the reasons you stated.  I once saw SATC1 after seeing &quot;Whip It&quot; and the enpowerfulness of the SATC franchise was glaring.

That said, I TOTALLY, 100% disagree with you about fashion.  I think a lot of people wear it for labels and vanity and whatnot, and the industry troubles me with beauty standards. But I think a lot of people disregard fashion as an art form, which it absolutely is.  And even more, it&#039;s wearable art! Art you can take around with you and express yourself with!  

I would never pay $400 for a pair of shoes (so Jimmy Choos are out for me) or that much money for any kind of clothing, but I will scour the internet looking for heavily discounted Alexander McQueen, because I think he was a great artist. 

And so the problem with knock-offs is this - people are taking other people&#039;s art, copying it, and selling it as if that artist made it. It would be like if I bought a reproduced Kahlo piece, signed by the artist, and passed it off as authentic.  It&#039;s not cool in any other industry to steal like that, so why should it be in fashion?

And to be even more longwinded - I think fashion as an industry has an interesting push/pull. No one in the patriarchy takes it seriously as art because it&#039;s primarily focused on women, in the only industry where women are often paid more than men.  But then, feminists don&#039;t take it seriously because of the body standard issue (which I take umbrage to as well!) and say it harms women. So it&#039;s difficult to defend. But not liking fashion doesn&#039;t make anyone cooler or non-feminist than someone who likes it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not going to see SATC2, unless I&#8217;m really bored one day and it happens to be on HBO.  Pretty much, for all the reasons you stated.  I once saw SATC1 after seeing &#8220;Whip It&#8221; and the enpowerfulness of the SATC franchise was glaring.</p>
<p>That said, I TOTALLY, 100% disagree with you about fashion.  I think a lot of people wear it for labels and vanity and whatnot, and the industry troubles me with beauty standards. But I think a lot of people disregard fashion as an art form, which it absolutely is.  And even more, it&#8217;s wearable art! Art you can take around with you and express yourself with!  </p>
<p>I would never pay $400 for a pair of shoes (so Jimmy Choos are out for me) or that much money for any kind of clothing, but I will scour the internet looking for heavily discounted Alexander McQueen, because I think he was a great artist. </p>
<p>And so the problem with knock-offs is this &#8211; people are taking other people&#8217;s art, copying it, and selling it as if that artist made it. It would be like if I bought a reproduced Kahlo piece, signed by the artist, and passed it off as authentic.  It&#8217;s not cool in any other industry to steal like that, so why should it be in fashion?</p>
<p>And to be even more longwinded &#8211; I think fashion as an industry has an interesting push/pull. No one in the patriarchy takes it seriously as art because it&#8217;s primarily focused on women, in the only industry where women are often paid more than men.  But then, feminists don&#8217;t take it seriously because of the body standard issue (which I take umbrage to as well!) and say it harms women. So it&#8217;s difficult to defend. But not liking fashion doesn&#8217;t make anyone cooler or non-feminist than someone who likes it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your judgements of Sex and the City 2 are totally correct and should be shared by right-thinking people, but at a certain point, I feel like no one should have to deconstruct the politics of something &lt;em&gt;so bad&lt;/em&gt;. The show - and even the first movie - had a really seductive charm that made talking about the gross underlying politics of it important, because it was actually enjoyable. I watched it because I thought I should have An Opinion about it, and by the end I was like &quot;I can&#039;t have an opinion about this, it&#039;s too stupid and I think everyone would be better off just dismissing the whole thing outright.&quot; But it is Significant Phenomenon, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your judgements of Sex and the City 2 are totally correct and should be shared by right-thinking people, but at a certain point, I feel like no one should have to deconstruct the politics of something <em>so bad</em>. The show &#8211; and even the first movie &#8211; had a really seductive charm that made talking about the gross underlying politics of it important, because it was actually enjoyable. I watched it because I thought I should have An Opinion about it, and by the end I was like &#8220;I can&#8217;t have an opinion about this, it&#8217;s too stupid and I think everyone would be better off just dismissing the whole thing outright.&#8221; But it is Significant Phenomenon, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: The Morning Dump: What&#8217;s wrong with SATC2, Batman Forever friends, Defining Canadian comedy &#124; The Ashcan</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Morning Dump: What&#8217;s wrong with SATC2, Batman Forever friends, Defining Canadian comedy &#124; The Ashcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] society based on the values that have been propagated via shitty music, television, books. Anyway, this write-up of Sex and the City 2 (by a dude, no less) for the AMAZING AWESOME FEMINISTY-KINDA BLOG Tiger Beatdown basically [...]</description>
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		<title>By: procrastinatrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>procrastinatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People like this will go to Sex and the City 2 and feel progressive for supporting gay rights, without connecting this experience to their own racism, their failure to grasp even the basics of international politics, or the global wealth machine, which runs on the lives of poor people and all of the natural resources their countries can be bribed out of.&quot;

Wonderful sentence. What a concise definition of &quot;the global wealth machine&quot; as you call it. I will use it, often, with attribution! Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People like this will go to Sex and the City 2 and feel progressive for supporting gay rights, without connecting this experience to their own racism, their failure to grasp even the basics of international politics, or the global wealth machine, which runs on the lives of poor people and all of the natural resources their countries can be bribed out of.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wonderful sentence. What a concise definition of &#8220;the global wealth machine&#8221; as you call it. I will use it, often, with attribution! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: wealhtheow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wealhtheow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was hilarious and true.  Plus, I will love forever this quote:  &quot;(YOU ARE A MAMMAL. BODY FAT IS CHARACTERISTIC OF YOUR PHYLOGENETIC CLASS)&quot;

I kinda want to get it tattooed on my forehead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was hilarious and true.  Plus, I will love forever this quote:  &#8220;(YOU ARE A MAMMAL. BODY FAT IS CHARACTERISTIC OF YOUR PHYLOGENETIC CLASS)&#8221;</p>
<p>I kinda want to get it tattooed on my forehead.</p>
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		<title>By: Christianne Benedict</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christianne Benedict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I saw the first SatC movie, I thought I might like to see the filmmakers involved torn apart by wild dingoes. I&#039;ll be avoiding the second one like it&#039;s unshielded plutonium. 

Thanks for throwing yourself on this particular hand grenade. Your sacrifice has not been in vain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw the first SatC movie, I thought I might like to see the filmmakers involved torn apart by wild dingoes. I&#8217;ll be avoiding the second one like it&#8217;s unshielded plutonium. </p>
<p>Thanks for throwing yourself on this particular hand grenade. Your sacrifice has not been in vain.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Coldheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Coldheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I drank my last mimosa OUT OF A MASON JAR.&lt;/i&gt;

Hipster.  :p

I will note that, in my (hazy) recollection of the TV series - which I watched, what, a decade ago?  holy hell - , the fashion and decadence were a lot more subtle.  It was always there, of course: the cosmotinis and the Blahniks and the dresses, etc.  But there weren&#039;t these sopping montages of dresses and diamonds and the like.

I think (as you said) this is a function of trying to pad a 60-minute episode into a 2-hour movie.  They can shovel more shitty dialogue in the boilers and make it go faster, or they can do lots of weird camera tricks.

Also: it says something of the writers&#039; cultural outlook that they thought, &quot;Hmm - let&#039;s shake things up by sending Carrie and the girls some place where women are objectified, praised for adherence to male-imposed virtues and have nothing useful to contribute,&quot; and then &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; set the movie in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I drank my last mimosa OUT OF A MASON JAR.</i></p>
<p>Hipster.  :p</p>
<p>I will note that, in my (hazy) recollection of the TV series &#8211; which I watched, what, a decade ago?  holy hell &#8211; , the fashion and decadence were a lot more subtle.  It was always there, of course: the cosmotinis and the Blahniks and the dresses, etc.  But there weren&#8217;t these sopping montages of dresses and diamonds and the like.</p>
<p>I think (as you said) this is a function of trying to pad a 60-minute episode into a 2-hour movie.  They can shovel more shitty dialogue in the boilers and make it go faster, or they can do lots of weird camera tricks.</p>
<p>Also: it says something of the writers&#8217; cultural outlook that they thought, &#8220;Hmm &#8211; let&#8217;s shake things up by sending Carrie and the girls some place where women are objectified, praised for adherence to male-imposed virtues and have nothing useful to contribute,&#8221; and then <i>didn&#8217;t</i> set the movie in America.</p>
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