Comments on: The Hierarchical Structure of Fashion http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/ Kumbaya Motherf*cker Central Sun, 20 May 2012 07:44:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cate http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-33461 Cate Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:53:44 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-33461 YES YES YES, thank you for writing this xoxoxo YES YES YES, thank you for writing this xoxoxo

]]> By: Manda http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-28072 Manda Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:33:20 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-28072 This post reminds me of my General Theory of Fashion, which is: Fashion designers hate women. They really do. I don't care if the designer is male or female, straight or not, they seem to be trying to get revenge against the people who buy their things. I'm talking primarily about haute couture now, but I think it filters down -- the guiding principle seems to be that the person is only there to make the clothes look good, and eff you if you think it should work the other way. Seriously, take a look at shots from any runway show basically ever, and tell me if they ever have actual women in mind when they design that crap. I think they'd be happiest if we were all just shaped like coathangers. On the plus side, I have seen improvement of a sort in this area in recent years. Men's fashions have become so idiotic that I'm nearly ready to expand my theory. Soon I'll feel 100% confident in saying that fashion designers hate people. This post reminds me of my General Theory of Fashion, which is: Fashion designers hate women.

They really do. I don’t care if the designer is male or female, straight or not, they seem to be trying to get revenge against the people who buy their things. I’m talking primarily about haute couture now, but I think it filters down — the guiding principle seems to be that the person is only there to make the clothes look good, and eff you if you think it should work the other way. Seriously, take a look at shots from any runway show basically ever, and tell me if they ever have actual women in mind when they design that crap. I think they’d be happiest if we were all just shaped like coathangers.

On the plus side, I have seen improvement of a sort in this area in recent years. Men’s fashions have become so idiotic that I’m nearly ready to expand my theory. Soon I’ll feel 100% confident in saying that fashion designers hate people.

]]> By: Andrea http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-26599 Andrea Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:07:45 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-26599 Dora, "Fashion rules exist so the people who Know can feel better than the people who don’t Know — wearing the “right” shoes is a status symbol and a signal of class, like speaking in the right idiom. In other words, fuck that." Yes. I completely agree. I had a 'friend' in college who constantly used clothes against me. No matter what I wore it wasn't cute enough, wasn't current enough, wasn't good enough. Fuck that to hell. Dora, “Fashion rules exist so the people who Know can feel better than the people who don’t Know — wearing the “right” shoes is a status symbol and a signal of class, like speaking in the right idiom. In other words, fuck that.”

Yes. I completely agree. I had a ‘friend’ in college who constantly used clothes against me. No matter what I wore it wasn’t cute enough, wasn’t current enough, wasn’t good enough. Fuck that to hell.

]]> By: thecynicalromantic http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-25445 thecynicalromantic Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:02:21 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-25445 @Jean ahhhhh I'd forgotten about the ultra low rise trend; I think I'd repressed it. I'm all tall and skinny and long-legged and shit like ladies are "supposed" to be, in a way where ALL pants ride really low on me ANYWAY, so when I was thirteen fucking years old and the only pants available were ultra-low-rise it was just like <i>I could not pull a pair of pants all the way on<i> for three years in middle school and it was TRAUMATIZING. Then I went Goth and wore big skirts for ever instead. o.O @Jean ahhhhh I’d forgotten about the ultra low rise trend; I think I’d repressed it. I’m all tall and skinny and long-legged and shit like ladies are “supposed” to be, in a way where ALL pants ride really low on me ANYWAY, so when I was thirteen fucking years old and the only pants available were ultra-low-rise it was just like I could not pull a pair of pants all the way on for three years in middle school and it was TRAUMATIZING. Then I went Goth and wore big skirts for ever instead. o.O

]]> By: Lasciel http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-24931 Lasciel Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:06:41 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-24931 I always hated What Not to Wear. It seemed like the whole point was taking people that clearly loved how they dressed, and forcing them into bland crap. My problem with the whole "Tights are not pants!" BS is that everyone that takes that stance is usually whining about having to see something they don't want to see. I'm not going to drop dead from seeing too much of a woman's behind. We need a new word to separate fashion in it's natural form from the rigid system that dominates. When I say I love fashion I mean I love clothes, not the ageist, sexist, racist BS system that dominates everywhere. I always hated What Not to Wear. It seemed like the whole point was taking people that clearly loved how they dressed, and forcing them into bland crap.

My problem with the whole “Tights are not pants!” BS is that everyone that takes that stance is usually whining about having to see something they don’t want to see. I’m not going to drop dead from seeing too much of a woman’s behind.

We need a new word to separate fashion in it’s natural form from the rigid system that dominates. When I say I love fashion I mean I love clothes, not the ageist, sexist, racist BS system that dominates everywhere.

]]> By: Dora http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-24260 Dora Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:19:23 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-24260 Fashion rules exist so the people who Know can feel better than the people who don't Know -- wearing the "right" shoes is a status symbol and a signal of class, like speaking in the right idiom. In other words, fuck that. I really love clothes, though. Thanks for this post! It made me donate, too. Well, that and I finally have a few extra bucks this month. Fashion rules exist so the people who Know can feel better than the people who don’t Know — wearing the “right” shoes is a status symbol and a signal of class, like speaking in the right idiom. In other words, fuck that.

I really love clothes, though.

Thanks for this post! It made me donate, too. Well, that and I finally have a few extra bucks this month.

]]> By: cathy http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-23988 cathy Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:43:46 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-23988 Excellent post! I find it frustrating that not only are all of these "rules" thrusted on us - but designers make it extremely difficult to find clothing that follows the rules! On a side note, I recently moved to DC and I would love to talk to you about this job that you love, if you are willing. Excellent post! I find it frustrating that not only are all of these “rules” thrusted on us – but designers make it extremely difficult to find clothing that follows the rules!

On a side note, I recently moved to DC and I would love to talk to you about this job that you love, if you are willing.

]]> By: AnthroK8 http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-23867 AnthroK8 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:12:34 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-23867 If you haven't yet, go have a gander at "you don't have to be pretty" by Erin McKean at A Dress A Day. It will make you happy, I hope, and it began with a discussion of... leggings. The great prompter of style philosophy, I guess. http://dressaday.com/2006/10/you-dont-have-to-be-pretty.html If you haven’t yet, go have a gander at “you don’t have to be pretty” by Erin McKean at A Dress A Day. It will make you happy, I hope, and it began with a discussion of… leggings. The great prompter of style philosophy, I guess.

http://dressaday.com/2006/10/you-dont-have-to-be-pretty.html

]]> By: assassin http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-23776 assassin Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:19:14 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-23776 loved this post and i too increasingly frowned at WNTW. i was happy for the women who seemed like they just needed to feel good about themselves--the dowdy moms, the harried IT girl who just didn't understand or care about clothes but felt good with a new look. but i felt bad for the zany, "inappropriate" gals--the ones who clearly LIKED shopping and felt good in their embellished jeans and ripped-up tank tops. stacy and clinton just made those women feel bad about themselves for not following the Rules and i was just like LEAVE THEM ALONE! as much as i might find excessive ruching and uggs offensive to my eyes, i will defend to the death your right to wear them, WNTW people! also, what is their obsession with wide-legged jeans? they do not look good on everyone, like every other kind of jeans. they put EVERYONE in them, it's so boring/awful. loved this post and i too increasingly frowned at WNTW. i was happy for the women who seemed like they just needed to feel good about themselves–the dowdy moms, the harried IT girl who just didn’t understand or care about clothes but felt good with a new look. but i felt bad for the zany, “inappropriate” gals–the ones who clearly LIKED shopping and felt good in their embellished jeans and ripped-up tank tops. stacy and clinton just made those women feel bad about themselves for not following the Rules and i was just like LEAVE THEM ALONE! as much as i might find excessive ruching and uggs offensive to my eyes, i will defend to the death your right to wear them, WNTW people!

also, what is their obsession with wide-legged jeans? they do not look good on everyone, like every other kind of jeans. they put EVERYONE in them, it’s so boring/awful.

]]> By: emjaybee http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/07/14/the-hierarchical-structure-of-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-23769 emjaybee Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:55:55 +0000 http://tigerbeatdown.com/?p=1753#comment-23769 How about problems within the fat-girl fashions that do exist? You know, the ones that assume I'm pear shaped, love exposing my cleavage, and enjoy wearing circus clown colors at all times, and have the nerve to charge me out the ass for it (cough, Lane Bryant, cough). How about problems within the fat-girl fashions that do exist? You know, the ones that assume I’m pear shaped, love exposing my cleavage, and enjoy wearing circus clown colors at all times, and have the nerve to charge me out the ass for it (cough, Lane Bryant, cough).

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