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#MooreandMe: And Then He Came Down

Last night, I did something I hadn’t done in a very long time. I took a long, hot bath. I just laid there, and I started to feel how tired I was, and I started to feel less tense. And then I got up, and I went to my bedroom, and I laid down next to my boyfriend and my dog Hektor, who will insistently not act like a dog and sleep in a doggie bed or at the foot of the bed, he demands respect, damn it, he absolutely must sleep directly between you and the other person with his face right in your face, and I fell instantly asleep. I wasn’t distracted by sadness or anger or despair or tension, I wasn’t feeling awful for the first time in a long time, and so, I let the dog find a comfortable space next to me (FACE RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, FACE RIGHT IN YOUR FAAAACE), and I had a good night’s sleep. For the first time in a week.

Because I could do that, sort of. Because we won one. I’ll tell you why I’m certain we won it, a little later — the evidence may surprise you — but you might know part of it. The part where, in the last, final push of #MooreandMe, we turned all our hope and support and need for genuinely progressive media that takes rape claims seriously and does not smear or enable harm to women who report rape on to Rachel Maddow, and asked her to end #MooreandMe. And she got on her show, and she said this:

The timing could not be more suspicious. The man accused says he’s being pursued for political reasons. But even if you’re suspicious about the timing, there are two women who went to the police with what are essentially date-rape charges against this guy.

This doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker.

Can your suspicion about the forces arrayed against Julian Assange and Wikileaks — your suspicion about the timing and pursuit of these charges — coexist with respect for the women making these accusations against him and with a commitment to take rape allegations seriously, even when the person accused is someone that for other reasons you like?

Yes. You undoubtedly can. We’ve all been doing it for well over a week; #MooreandMe was only the most evident and obvious and loud manifestation of that commitment. But can you get a beloved progressive media figure say it on TV? You couldn’t, before #MooreandMe. You simply couldn’t. Maddow hadn’t screwed up on this story before, it’s true. But last night, she said, with great seriousness, that respecting those women and taking those charges seriously was important. And when her team posted it, to @MaddowBlog and the Maddow Blog, they specifically credited #MooreandMe.

And then Michael Moore came on. And the first question Rachel Maddow asked him, the first one she asked him, was about this. That the story had “blown up in a lot of directions.” It had blown up, and had reached out to Rachel Maddow, in one specific direction, and I can’t for the life of me see why she wouldn’t mention us on-air, but, OK. She asked him; she mentioned us, if not by name. And that’s the point at which Michael Moore said this:

Every woman who claims to have been sexually assaulted or raped has to be, must be, taken seriously. Those charges have to be investigated to the fullest extent possible. For too long, and too many women have been abused in our society, because they were not listened to, and they just got shoved aside… The older people here remember how it used to be. It’s not that much better now, it got a little better, because of the women’s movement made that happen.

And no, Michael Moore: It is not that much better now. It is, indisputably, not that much better. Naomi Wolf went on TV and told every viewer there that it isn’t rape if the victim is unconscious, that penetrating an unconscious woman is “consensual”: It’s not that much better. Those two women’s names were outed, to over 900,000 people, by you and by Keith Olbermann, and attached to a derogatory smear by a Holocaust denier and WikiLeaks representative on little to no evidence, because you support WikiLeaks and treated those two women as expendable in so doing: It’s not that much better. I got a message from a woman that the pro-Assange group, pro-WikiLeaks group she’s allied with, is posting messages that these women are liars and Assange is innocent, on its Facebook group, and that she’s being attacked for standing up to them: It’s not that much better. I got forwarded a link to an actual product that is being sold, an e-card featuring a drawing of a traumatized-looking woman huddled in a shower, reading “Congratulations! You just got bad touched”: It’s not that much better. A woman who was part of the protest told me that a message reading, in part, that she was “a cum-guzzling super slut wannabe hasbian dyke that is angry with the world because no matter how many times she flashed her uneven nigger breasts no man would ever touch her” was posted to streamofwikileaks.tumblr.com: It is not that much better. A man told me he had to stop protesting, had to stop posting #MooreandMe, because the harassment had gotten too intense, and “they have my home address and have explicitly threatened me and my wife,” and then he was such a goddamned good person that he actually apologized: It’s not that much better. Many of my friends, people I know and have worked with and respect, have come forward to tell me that they, too, are survivors, the absolute epidemic of rape and sexual assault that we face in this society has become that much clearer to me, the list of women I know who are also rape survivors has become much, much longer since I posted it on Saturday: It is not, it is indisputably not, that much better.

But you went on TV, Michael Moore, and you said that “every woman who claims to have been sexually assaulted or raped has to be, must be, taken seriously.” And when I realized that I was actually grateful for that, that I was so grateful I actually broke down sobbing, well: That’s when I realized the extent of what we’re actually up against. Certain people have been quick to condemn me for “settling” for so little, for taking “crumbs,” but the thing is? We all worked for a goddamned week, non-stop, risking our lives and safety, to hear a man say that women who report sexual assault and rape have to be taken seriously. And we shouldn’t ever, ever have to fight to hear people say that. It should never take a week for us to get through to those people. We should never, ever have to point out to a man that laughing out loud, discussing rape allegations, and calling them a “so-called crime” when the actual extent of the allegations is public knowledge, and OUTING THEM TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHILE REPEATING UNSUBSTANTIATED DEROGATORY SHIT INTENDED TO MAKE PEOPLE DOUBT AND HATE THEM, is WRONG.

The widespread cultural belief that every woman who reports a rape must be taken seriously should be a common part of my day-to-day experience. I should expect that people believe that; I should expect that people behave in accordance with that belief; I should have the right to be shocked or surprised when they don’t. But I don’t expect it. It’s not a common expectation. And that’s why I actually felt real, pure, huge gratitude last night, hearing Michael Moore. Because rape culture is so powerful that even hearing a man say that rape culture and rape apologism isn’t okay comes as a surprise. Strikes me as receiving a special favor. When it shouldn’t be a favor, or a victory; it should be a basic human right.

We’ve been fighting for a long time, and we still didn’t win it all. And as for Keith Olbermann, well… I have certain feelings about Keith Olbermann.

But you know we fought, and we fought, and I was tired, and I was scared, and I was crying, and I was outside the tower, and I knew we had to not go away. And then, well… then he came down.

That was in my Direct Messages inbox. On my Twitter. At the bottom of the 200 unanswered e-mails; I almost ignored it, almost blitzed right past it, because it was on Twitter and those are just new “follow” notifications.

I got a “thank you” from Michael Moore. You did. We all did.

HE FUCKING CAME DOWN FROM THE TOWER. HE CAME DOWN. We stood out here, and we waited, with our megaphones, and then THE MAN CAME DOWN.

The story ended better this time. I mean, in Roger & Me, Roger talking to Michael, that wasn’t going to give those people their jobs back, right? “Gosh, Michael, you have such a good point, allow me to immediately reverse all of this economic devastation.” No. That was never how it was going to work, even as a best-case scenarion. But we wanted Roger to talk to Michael, anyway. We wanted to talk.

They’re talking now. Keith Olbermann is on his Twitter saying it’s “misogynist” to characterize two women with date rape claims as being “in a tizzy,” which Assange did. (It’s also misogynist to refer to one of them as a “notorious radical feminist” — because us feminists, we just plain CAN’T EVER be raped, right, many many many many feminist survivors participating in this protest? — and it’s a flat-out lie to say that they “wrote many articles” about seeking revenge, when in fact what one of them did was TRANSLATE and REPOST an EHOW ARTICLE, and Assange did both things yesterday. Care to address that, Mr. Olbermann?) Keith Olbermann will never thank us for making him a better journalist, or a better person; Keith Olbermann will never acknowledge that his prior coverage kind of skimped on basic standards of both journalism and human decency. But, as many of us pointed out last night, we still accomplished something.

We made it clear that the media narrative of the Assange case, which told us that in order to be pro-WikiLeaks we’d have to minimize, discount, and smear those two women, which told us that women who allege rape and rape survivors are EXPENDABLE when it comes to certain left-wing celebrities or causes, is unacceptable. We made it clear that journalists — men and women — who do this, who minimize and misrepresent those claims, who leak those names, who endanger those women, are going to face consequences. And that those consequences might be bigger than anything they’ve ever seen before; bigger than anything that they had any reason to expect.

I said this on Twitter, before, but: We fought for basic human decency for over a week. We fought, tirelessly, at great risk and expense, to make a mountain move. The mountain moved, like, three inches to the left. If you weren’t looking closely, you wouldn’t notice that it had moved at all. You definitely wouldn’t think to thank or acknowledge the incredibly hard work of the people who moved it. But we moved a mountain. We did the impossible. We went from just a random bunch of frustrated feminists, a random bunch of people on Twitter, to a force capable of changing the rape apologism in the narrative of one of the world’s biggest news stories.

The mountain moved. The man came down from the tower. And we still live in a rape culture; we’re still not done fighting it; the narrative around Assange, in particular, is still hugely misogynist and hugely dangerous for those two women and will still encourage rape survivors not to report. We didn’t get a full apology and correction from Michael Moore; we didn’t get a full apology and correction from Keith Olbermann; neither of them have donated to the many rape crisis and anti-rape organizations to which we’ve provided links; heck, we didn’t even get credit on air. But we know what we’re capable of now. And that is immensely important.

That’s the most important lesson of #MooreandMe, for me, the most important take-away: The next time something is this fucked up, and we feel like we have to fight it, we will. The next time we feel like we have to fight something, we will know fighting can make a difference. The chief thing #MooreandMe gave me, the girl who started out a week ago just writing an irritated Tweet and then eventually hearing a “thank you” from Michael Moore, was faith in the idea that activism can change things. Faith in the idea that you matter. Faith in the idea that, next time we set out to oppose rape culture in our media or our lives, we can do so with that most precious, most rare, most essential of qualities: We can fight rape, and we can have hope.

181 Comments

  1. PatientC wrote:

    Thank you for, well, everything, Sady.

    Well done!

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:14 pm | Permalink
  2. Stephanie wrote:

    Proud of you, Sady. And everyone. You matter; we all do.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Permalink
  3. Jha wrote:

    My goodness he DID come down. Might have been nice for further engagement, but it’s a positive, if tiny, step forward.

    *hugs* This week has reaffirmed my faith in activism, Sady. Thank you for taking the front line on it.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Permalink
  4. That direct message truly is a win. Thank you, Sady, for making this happen. I’m proud and happy to have been a tiny part of it.

    And anyone who hasn’t already seen it should read Millicent’s article on just why this was a pretty amazing thing.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Permalink
  5. I cried when I read about it on Twitter. I just broke down and sobbed.

    Yeah, it’s sad that so little elicits that response, but as I told my husband, when you’ve spent so much of your life being called a lying whore, well, when someone comes along and says you shouldn’t be called a lying whore… Instead of hearing how rape kits aren’t going to be processed and shit, we’re hearing that we need to be taken seriously.

    Thank you for starting this Sady.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Permalink
  6. Snowflake wrote:

    Oh my God, this is beautiful. Heartbreaking but beautiful.

    You matter. We all matter.

    Thank you, Sady. I’m glad I could be a part of this.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Permalink
  7. Suzers wrote:

    Fuck. I just… fuck.

    Thank you, Sady. Thank you, Rachel Maddow. Thank you, everyone.

    Fuck.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
  8. salienne wrote:

    Thank you so so much for all your work this week, Sady. I’m almost positive nothing would’ve been said about respecting all rape allegations, even involving important figures we might otherwise like, had #mooreandme not been around.

    Joining Michael Moore to say, thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
  9. Yael Tiferet wrote:

    Thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Permalink
  10. Lishra wrote:

    Thank you, Sady. Thank you everyone who supported or participated in this.

    Also, Keith Olbermann and I had a twitter conversation late last night where he kinda-sorta admitted that the allegations are NOT about a broken condom. He communicated it in a super weird way, and also threw in something about “the story” changing a lot, but it’s something.

    Me: http://twitter.com/radlishra/status/17476799390818304
    KO: http://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/17479146661740544
    Me: http://twitter.com/radlishra/status/17481608374255617
    Me again: http://twitter.com/radlishra/status/17482646686793728
    KO: http://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/17484330783739904

    And then he signed off for the night. BIZARRE WORLD WE HAVE.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Permalink
  11. katiemonstrrr wrote:

    That last paragraph has honestly brought me to tears. Thank you so much for starting #mooreandme. I’m so glad MM actually thanked you, you deserve it (not that you don’t already know that). It was just fucking awesome working on this with you (in my small way), and with everyone else who worked on this, as well. We can, indeed, have hope.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
  12. Craig Ranapia wrote:

    I can’t for the life of me see why she wouldn’t mention us on-air,

    Because that would have required some context-setting, and mentioning Moore’s performance on KO’s show and you can’t have the talent dissing the brand?

    I complete agree with everything you’ve said, and just heart you all the more for it. When you’ve eaten shit for a week, crumbs are damn tasty.

    But I’m still disappointed that Maddow let Moore say “I helped establish the first rape crisis center in Flint, sixteen years ago” without calling him on what he say one fucking week ago.

    Now, perhaps I need to get realistic about my expectations. I know from experience how obsessed media orgs are with “protecting the brand”, and Keith Olbermann has amply displayed what an entitled privilege denying prick he is.

    I contribute to a radio show on a talk radio network whose star talent is (not to put too fine a point on it) a racist, homophobic misogynist. When I did a piece calling out his own slut-shaming rape apologism, I was lucky enough to have producers who had my back. 110%.

    I wouldn’t be naive enough to assume Maddow has the same.

    But it still hurt me that Moore was allowed to get away without even acknowledging that he slut-shamed and spread misinformation about Swedish sex crime laws and lies about rape complainants on her own network.

    And, yes, it’s great that Moore is finally showing some common fucking decency on MSNBC. Give him a man-cookie.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Permalink
  13. Kathy wrote:

    Those are the best three inches ever. I feel better for having been a part of this — thanks for leading the charge.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
  14. (And getting RAINN to make a public commitment to improve its treatment of transgender people is no little thing either.)

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
  15. rachel wrote:

    i am crying right now. so hard. and yet i’m pretty sure it’s never felt so good to feel so bad.

    long live activism. fuck patriarchy.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
  16. NomadiCat wrote:

    I don’t cry. It’s an… issue of mine. So when I say that reading Michael Moore’s (been typing @MMFlint for so long I had to rewrite that *twice*) direct message to you, when I say that I actually got choked up, I really mean that.

    You did good, Sady. You did fucking GREAT.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
  17. C wrote:

    Oh jeez, I should have waited to read this because now I’m crying at work. Just, THANK YOU.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:28 pm | Permalink
  18. Eileen wrote:

    Thank you for doing this Sady. You’ve proven something to me that I wouldn’t allow myself to believe. This will make it easier next time to keep fighting for things that are right.

    This has changed my opinion of Olbermann forever though. I knew he was a blowhard before, but I thought he was decent at heart. I won’t make that mistake again.

    Isn’t it funny how it takes things like this to shake out the worthy from those who are not? Michael Moore? Imperfect, but worthy of my faith and respect. Rachel Maddow? A freaking heroine! Sady Doyle? The same!

    Keith Olbermann? Yeah, I’m done with that guy.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:28 pm | Permalink
  19. Nyssa23 wrote:

    Wow. Is it weird that I honestly didn’t think for a second that Moore would budge on this?

    Right now, this kind of feels like a little Christmas miracle. And I’m Jewish so that’s saying a lot.

    Thank you for getting us all mobilized, including cynics like me who had almost given up on ever seeing any change, anywhere.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
  20. kpants wrote:

    Thank you. And thank you to everyone who has participated.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
  21. Stephanie wrote:

    Let’s savor the victory for a sweet minute. Take breaths, watch the sun struggling through the clouds, listen to music, take a bubble bath.

    The fight never ends, but we can savor our skirmishes.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Permalink
  22. Mel wrote:

    Sady, you are a superhero. I am so in awe of your strength and tenacity here.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:35 pm | Permalink
  23. Lauren wrote:

    Sady, I was raped by my brother when I was a little girl, no more than ten. Shit like Assange and Roman Polanski, makes me feel like he was right when he told me that girls weren’t allowed to say no; that made them teases.

    Thank you for fighting for me.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
  24. Steev wrote:

    Thanks so much Sady. You’ve been truly inspiring.

    (So do we change it to #KeithAndMe now? :-) )

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
  25. eli wrote:

    You did good work. Awesome work. Necessary work. Thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:37 pm | Permalink
  26. Sheila wrote:

    Thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:37 pm | Permalink
  27. GIFTTOTHEGUTTER wrote:

    Thank you so much for everything that you’ve done over the past week, Sady. Three inches is still progress and, like others have said, #mooreandme also got people thinking about the seriousness of rape, encouraged a lot of people to donate to organisations that fight sexual violence and got RAINN to think about how they can become more trans-inclusive. These are all significant steps too. Well done and thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:39 pm | Permalink
  28. A Nonny Moose wrote:

    Well done Sady, I know this week has felt awful, but you did it. Three inches is better than none.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
  29. BiblioSpork wrote:

    Thank you, Sady!

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:41 pm | Permalink
  30. Matthew Morse wrote:

    I cried during Maddow last night. So much that my roommate, who was in another room, came in to check that I wasn’t having an asthma attack. And I’m trying really hard to not cry right now here at work.

    Thank you, Sady.

    And thank you, Michael Moore.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
  31. topaz_grrl wrote:

    (And getting RAINN to make a public commitment to improve its treatment of transgender people is no little thing either.)

    Repeated for truth. Not to mention all the donations different rape crisis centers got. Love and thanks to Sady and ALL!

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
  32. Zavi wrote:

    Thank you, Sady. I am overwhelmed by the effort you put in and the sacrifices you made for this effort, and I am so very glad you (and we) have been rewarded.

    When you went radio-silent on Twitter last night, I was hoping– praying, really– that you were sleeping soundly. I’m really glad to hear that you were. Rarely has a good night of sleep been so well deserved.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
  33. PrettyAmiable wrote:

    Thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
  34. raven_feathers wrote:

    i’ve been watching this all on twitter, somewhat detachedly, and didn’t realize how much i had invested in cynical apathy until i read moore’s message and immediately started crying. hoo boy.

    great work, all around.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
  35. JenMR wrote:

    So awesome! So fucking awesome!

    Thank you, Sady!

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Permalink
  36. gidget commando wrote:

    You just made me believe in miracles again. You made me believe that there are reasons to hope, REAL reasons for big, fat hope, after all. That may be the best present anyone ever gave me.

    (I just moved and ditched my cable. Seeing Rachel kick ass like that, I may have to rethink that decision.)

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
  37. maevele wrote:

    wow. sometimes this shit works. thanks for giving me hope in activism again.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
  38. carovee wrote:

    Sady, you did something great here. I also want to thank Rachel Maddow. And whenever someone whinges about diversity (why oh why could we possible need it?), I’m going to point to Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:54 pm | Permalink
  39. Angela wrote:

    Thank you so much for starting #Mooreandme. You did amazing work, that reverberated much farther than just Twitter. Yes there was harassment, but you also helped open up dialogues – with the powerful and important people as well as the every day folks who randomly caught some of my #Mooreandme tweets and started looking into it more for themselves. Good has been done this week. It won’t be the last time we have to protest, I’m sure, but this has proved that our protests *can* make a difference.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:55 pm | Permalink
  40. Julia wrote:

    Thank you, Sady, and to everyone else who voiced our thoughts for us.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:55 pm | Permalink
  41. jen wrote:

    you rock.

    that is all.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
  42. Meredith wrote:

    Sady, you matter and we matter and Rachel and Michael acknowledged it. Any time that anyone says the internet doesn’t affect things IN REAL LIFE… well, they’re getting pointed to #MooreAndMe.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
  43. Steph wrote:

    Thank you just doesn’t seem like enough to say. Aside from the fact that you managed to force to extreme egomaniacs to look beyond themselves for a moment and to live up to the progessive principles they claim to abide by, you effectively stopped the ugly narrative against the two accusers in this case. And there’s no going back to that now. No longer can they spread vicious smears about the alleged victims. No longer can they spread lies about the charges. No longer can they harm other victims and play deaf to the thousands of victims and survivors clamoring for justice. You forced these two to acknowledge the truth of this case as well as the ugly rape culture we live in, and the importance of that cannot be understated.

    That goes beyond on a win, it sets a huge precedent for this case and others to follow, and there will never be enough words to sufficiently thank you. But nevertheless, thank you Sady and to all who pitched in and fought for this. And after all the hoopla dies down I hope you have time to relax, have a nice long smoke like a good anti-feminist and celebrate!

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 2:58 pm | Permalink
  44. Simon C. wrote:

    I’m crying at work. It’s cool, though; everyone’s already left for Christmas vacation.

    I could never say it enough: Sady, you’re my goddamned hero.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
  45. Stacy wrote:

    Thank you. I think the ramifications of what you did in the last week, the way you’ve helped people in profound ways, will have lasting effects.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
  46. Sidra Vitale wrote:

    Well done. Well done. And yes, we still live in a rape culture and shouldn’t have to be grateful for simple human decency, but this *worked*.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:06 pm | Permalink
  47. CL wrote:

    Fucking awesome, Sady.

    Unfortunately, talking about this around my house brought out some of my mother’s opinions that I’d rather not know. Very upsetting after feeling for 33 years that I’d learned to be a feminist from her.

    Also, haven’t sent in my donation yet, but pledging to do so before the end of the year, in honor of everyone’s hard work this week.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Permalink
  48. Cassy wrote:

    I’m glad I’m on my break at work right now. I think I’m going to start crying. It makes me so happy, just to know that our media figures listen.

    It can’t be said enough times, Sady. You are an AMAZING person. Your strength is what held this thing together and kept it out there long enough to make it work.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
  49. JD wrote:

    You know, I get that you can be pro-WikiLeaks and anti-rape. What I don’t get is how anyone can be pro-WikiLeaks knowing that they put people who deny the holocaust and make up cables to bolster Iran in charge of disseminating classified materials. Doesn’t that really undermine the entire underlying concept of citizen declassification, having nutballs like that in charge of that info? I think that is the real reason Olbermann will never come clean.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink
  50. Sara wrote:

    “Thank you” doesn’t feel like enough, but it’s all I’ve really got. So: thank you, for the fight you have fought, for your bravery and relentlessness, and for the inspiration you have been to so many of us. Thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:16 pm | Permalink
  51. Kate wrote:

    Thank-you so much. This fight is so important, and you are so brave.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Permalink
  52. raddad wrote:

    What a thrill to see this.
    @everyone – it is OK to cry, crying is the human response both to healing pain.
    @Sady – can you set up so that I can automatically paypal you money once a month?

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm | Permalink
  53. Matthew Morse wrote:

    My thoughts about not mentioning #mooreandme on the Maddow Show: Rachel and Michael gave three strong, independent statements about the importance of taking rape accusations seriously.

    This was a deliberate message, and it was targeted towards the audience of the show. Most viewers of Maddow are not #mooreandme followers. The message wasn’t for us, it was for the average viewer.

    It would have been hard to discuss #mooreandme or what Moore said on Olbermann without getting bogged down in details.

    The details would have been satisfying to us, but it would have diluted the basic message for everyone else.

    Maddow and Moore clearly thought about their message. It’s not an accident that Rachel said it once, and then Michael said it, and then Michael said it again after an ad break.

    And it’s clear from MMFlint’s message to Sady that he thought about the best way to say it. He could have apologized to #mooreandme on Twitter, but that wasn’t good enough. He waited until he could say it on TV. He wanted the biggest and most general audience he could get. (He could have also addressed it on Twitter, of course.)

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Permalink
  54. Deborah Lipp wrote:

    I have followed every word. Your work has been heroic and my heart is full of appreciation and love for you and what you’ve done. Thank you Michael Moore for what you said last night. Thank you MORE Sady for doing what you’ve done.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:27 pm | Permalink
  55. Emily wrote:

    This has been a long, tiring, and incredible week. Maybe it’s “crumbs” to be happy about those three inches, but we’ve got such a long way to go that this is not a sprint. It’s a marathon. We can slow to a brisk walk long enough to build our strength for the next time we need a burst of speed, and I feel more confident now that lefty leaders will be running alongside us this time.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:36 pm | Permalink
  56. Ally wrote:

    Sady, I am encouraged and impressed by your bravery, your tenacity and your persistence. Tears in these here eyes!

    Thank you for all of your work, with #mooreandme, but also for a fucking fantastic year of Tiger Beatdown. Happy holidays.

    xx

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:41 pm | Permalink
  57. Jender13 wrote:

    Sady, I have to echo all the other sniffles and tears here – I’ve cried this week in frustration, many times. I’ve cried because immersing myself in these discussions and protests has left me feeling raw and remembering my own trauma. I cried so, so, so hard during Rachel’s opening last night because I had been so afraid she would not say anything, and then not only did she say something but she said what she did. And I just cried again reading this post and I am so effing glad you got that message, and that you took a long hot bath and snuggled with your dog and your BF. And that you reminded me that this shows us we can have hope, we can make change – because today on the moore interview post on the Maddow Blog I’ve having to defend the #mooreandme position yet again, because people are pulling up the same damn arguments about broken condoms and sex by surprise and what’s really rape-rape and how these women are really just in this for fame and fortune and government conspiracy. STILL. And I needed the reminder that we keep on fighting because it does make a difference.
    Thank you, thank you, thank you, Sady Doyle. You rock and you have gained a new life-long internet friend (oh god, does that sound as creepy as i think it does? not a stalker, honest!!!!).
    And if any of y’all wanna stop by the Maddow Blog and lend your awesome voices where needed, that would be grand.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:41 pm | Permalink
  58. tinfoil hattie wrote:

    Thank you Sady, you’re a hero. Truly. This is an amazing event. Thanks also to everyone who tweeted, read the tweets, read the blogs, forwarded the links, donated, cried, got mad, and BELIEVED rape survivors.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Permalink
  59. AnneBonney wrote:

    Thank you so much Sady. I’ve never commented here before, but I’ve been reading a long time.

    I just wanted to say, that when #Mooreandme started, I thought back to the posts you’d done a few months ago. When you were looking at this blog, and the persona you inhabited here and were having doubts about “internet-feminism”. Though I had enjoyed Tiger Beatdown and your pieces here and there, that was when I first kinda sat up and payed attention. It seemed like you were hitting a wall, coming to a crossroads in your writing, as it were. And I thought, this can come out one of two ways: the site will fold and Sady will move on to “Serious Journalism only” stuff, or there’s going to be a huge shift, that keeps the spirit of this place, but shit’s going to get AWESOME.

    I saw this, and I knew it had been the latter. I don’t think I’ve been this moved and excited since I discovered feminist blogging years ago. You’ve done something incredible here. You’ve renewed my faith in online activism, you’ve married earnestness and snark into a potent brew that can erode a lot of different kinds of bull. You’ve inspired so many of us, and you’ve shown that yeah, we matter. And this thing we do, with the typing and the thinking and the feeling strongly, matters. That creating a space for voices in this way matters.

    A lot of times a little victory like this becomes a swansong for a particular aspect of a movement or a group or whatever. I don’t think this is that. I think #Mooreandme is Tiger Beatdown’s phoenixsong.

    Thank you for that. So much.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Permalink
  60. Fiona wrote:

    This made me tear up and then start running around my house yelling things. Thank you (plural, everyone involved) is not enough, but… thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:48 pm | Permalink
  61. laguiri wrote:

    Congratulations, everyone.

    Sady, you’re a hero.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Permalink
  62. RedSonya wrote:

    Those three inches can make a huge difference to the people living in the shadow of the mountain.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:15 pm | Permalink
  63. Lauren wrote:

    You’re fucking amazing lady! Most people can’t move a mountain even a 1/4 of an inch – three is still a huge accomplishment.

    As for #Mooreandme not being mentioned on Maddow, I have to agree with a lot of previous commenters. If she’d have mentioned it, it would have looked bad for Olbermann, and he’s MSNBC’s golden boy. At the very least, she addressed it.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:20 pm | Permalink
  64. Alf wrote:

    I don’t know, Michael Moore. You have a website where you can type as many characters as you want. You can say stuff there AND say stuff on TV. How many times have I received clarifications and sources from you by e-mail when people were questioning your movies’ facts? Still, thank you. But some retractions from you would be nice, too.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:22 pm | Permalink
  65. Gnatalby wrote:

    Sady I love TBD and I have been following and participating in #MooreandMe, but I have to say I feel like being done now is function of people being tired not us actually getting anything we wanted.

    Michael Moore never apologized or admitted to spreading misinformation. So now all he did is build up his feminist cred while leaving his abhorrent statements on the record. So now instead of just Michael Moore, progressive, ignores rape accusations and spreads lies about them, we have Michael Moore, vocal defender of women’s rights, rape center founder spreads lies about rape victims.

    Now who’s going to believe anything other than the surprise sex story?

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Permalink
  66. Anna wrote:

    Again, I’m so fucking happy. Thank you, Sady. Thank you, everyone who participated. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:27 pm | Permalink
  67. Doctress Julia wrote:

    Holy shit! This is a good thing; a really good thing! If I ever get to meet you, I am buying you as many beers/shots/sushi rolls as you want. I have been posting each and every one of these mooreandme posts on my Facebook, and arguing with people I thought were my friends. Fuck. Well, I hope the Evil Frog and Sword of Fucking Doom helped, even a tiny bit… THANK YOU. Xie Xie. xoxo. Love, Doctress Julia

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:27 pm | Permalink
  68. Craig Ranapia wrote:

    Matthew Morse@53:

    Moore could also have taken the time to say something like this:

    “Rachel, I’ve got to admit I haven’t always taken rape seriously myself.

    Earlier this week, I was a guest on Keith Olbermann’s show. I made statements that were factually inaccurate. I made other statements that were dismissive of the complainants in the Assange case; and generally dismissive and demeaning of women, particularly rape survivors.

    I’d like to offer an absolute and unconditional retraction and apology. And I also promise to be more mindful of not perpetuating rape culture; as well as not being a dick when feminists challenge my male privilege.”

    If Moore had done that, I’d be cheering the roof down. He didn’t, and (I suspect) made a conscious choice not to.

    So, credit where it’s due. But I’m still not going to bring out the cookies for basic human decency.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Permalink
  69. Abbie wrote:

    You’re brave and bold and you matter because we need you. Thanks for fighting for those of us who are fighting too but still trying to figure out what battalion we fit.
    Thank You.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:43 pm | Permalink
  70. Linda wrote:

    I enjoyed this blog entry. I like the mountain-moving pride of this blog entry and words about how !@$%&* awful rape culture is. I hope next we can be angry that accused rapists get prosecuted/charged/noticed only when it benefits someone with political power, and not because it would simply be right to investigate the charges. (I was getting that message all along from Wolf et. al, but it clearly got drowned out somewhere along the way.) ‘Cause that really pisses me right off.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:47 pm | Permalink
  71. matttbastard wrote:

    Imma frame that DM screencap.

    *fistbump*

    So. #MooreandMe virtual victory party soon, yes?

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
  72. tapette wrote:

    I just came across the tweet that alleges this is some kind of pro-capitalist excuse for feminism. WOW.Because of course, Keith Olbermann certainly doesn’t work for a corporate news organization and Moore certainly never made any money on any of his work. But Sady and Tiger Beatdown, you’re practically Goldman Freaking Sachs. Thank god I’ve been let in on the real purpose of TB and this campaign: straight up cash profits. Shame on you for abandoning the class war.

    At least Moore’s apology was more authentic than Jessica Coen’s…

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Permalink
  73. Sady wrote:

    @Tapette: Didn’t you know? Donating to NON-PROFITS for rape survivors is the bastion of capitalism!

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 4:59 pm | Permalink
  74. Sady wrote:

    @Linda: We’ve been angry about that all along. If you haven’t heard it, you haven’t paid attention. And unlike Naomi Wolf, we did NOT allege that an unconscious woman can consent to sex. Because she can’t. Moore & Olbermann misrepresented the charges — Wolf just straight-up said that Assange had penetrated an unconscious woman (thereby basically CALLING HIM A RAPIST, thereby admitting on-air that she WAS CONVINCED HE HAD COMMITTED RAPE, unlike ANY OF US) but that she considered that “consensual” because, like most unconscious women, she didn’t say “no,” and therefore it was OK. We fully believe that this date rape case is being investigated and pursued with more vigor than the vast majority of date rape cases, and that may be because it is politically useful. But don’t characterize Naomi Wolf as a hero. She went on TV and said it was OK to rape unconscious people. That is never cool.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:03 pm | Permalink
  75. Aoede wrote:

    “So, credit where it’s due. But I’m still not going to bring out the cookies for basic human decency.”

    Nah, these cookies are for the protestors.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:07 pm | Permalink
  76. Sady wrote:

    @Aoede, @Craig: EXACTLY. There are a lot of people who worked VERY HARD, for a LONG TIME, to effect even the slightest of changes. And we acknowledge — I have openly acknowledged — that what we got wasn’t what we asked for, that it wasn’t enough, and that the harm done to these two women and to all women who report rape is HUGE and has NOT BEEN HEALED, and will in fact keep on hurting. We said that. I said that. It wasn’t enough. But to devalue all of the many people who worked at great personal risk for even this minor victory is not cool.

    I’m not congratulating Michael Moore for meeting the basic standard of human decency. I’m congratulating everyone who worked on this, because they are fucking awesome, and they worked very hard to do a very good thing.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:13 pm | Permalink
  77. Millicent wrote:

    (And getting RAINN to make a public commitment to improve its treatment of transgender people is no little thing either.)

    Does anyone have a link/source for this?

    I found the RAINN blog post about the #mooreandme campaign, but nothing about trans-inclusivity.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:14 pm | Permalink
  78. Trish W wrote:

    It’s been a great run I think. I’m glad I was able to find a live stream on the internet of the show (As much American TV that shows in Canada, the political stuff kind of gets filtered out).

    I jumped to my feet and said stuff like “YES RACHEL MADDOW YES!” and danced around my apartment when she spoke for us. Just the way she looked at the television and said the words. It was like she was speaking to me and said “I heard you”. It really meant a lot to me, a sister over the border.

    Sady, I’ve been a fan for a long time. I love your humorous takes on feminism and I love the community that you’ve built here with the other writers and commenters.

    To #mooreandme protesters in general. Hugs and holiday wishes to everyone. We came together and we moved a mountain. Happy Holidays to all!

    – Trish

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:15 pm | Permalink
  79. Alyssa wrote:

    Thank you Sady. I have been reading feminist blogs (yours in particular) and really engaging with feminism, talking about it, and writing about it where I can, where it felt safe but for the first time #Mooreandme gave me the chance to feel like I was really doing something. It felt good to move that mountain.

    I was afraid to join the Twitter protest, but I did. Afraid to use my name, but I did. I still didn’t admit to being a survivor, because when I was raped, I couldn’t use the word, very few of my friends know I was raped years later, and one of the ones that I did tell told me it wasn’t rape because well, we all know what rape looks like right and he didn’t hit me so it wasn’t rape. I still struggle not to blame myself and not to minimize it because I didn’t fight back and I didn’t try to get out of the room, I didn’t yell no loudly and alot. Thank you for standing up for us. Thank you for convincing me to stand us as well.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:34 pm | Permalink
  80. Craig Ranapia wrote:

    Sady@76: Thanks. Hope you haven’t taken anything I said as a diss on you personally or #MooreandMe in general.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:36 pm | Permalink
  81. SunlessNick wrote:

    Respect to you, Sady. Appreciation, admiration. Thanks, congratulations. I’m not sure of the right word to describe what I want to convey. But you’ve been amazing and inspirational.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:49 pm | Permalink
  82. somebody42 wrote:

    Thank you, Sady. And thank you to everyone who supported Sady through all this. The outcome isn’t perfect and we’ve got a long way to go. Regardless, it’s a big win. Everyone who participated in this (on the side of Sady’s angels, that is ;) deserves gratitude and congratulations.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:54 pm | Permalink
  83. Carrie wrote:

    Thank you, Sady.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 5:56 pm | Permalink
  84. Joanna wrote:

    Sady, you did a great thing. And I give my heartfelt thanks to all the folks worked that hashtag so that you weren’t alone, and so that we weren’t alone. Sharing our stories is maybe more important than anything famous people say on Twitter or TV because it reminds us that we are not alone and we are more than the evil things that people have done to us, so much more.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Permalink
  85. Craig Ranapia wrote:

    Something else. Thanks, Sady, for challenging me to be lift my game when I talk to, and about, women; to not tolerate and enable b.s. from my “side” that I’d otherwise have zero tolerance for. Still got plenty of privilege baggage (and not just gendered) to unpack. That’s my work to do, but thanks for saying “be better”.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:08 pm | Permalink
  86. Sarah wrote:

    Thank you for fighting this. I hadn’t the words or the courage to put myself in that firing line. Thanks to all of #MooreandMe

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:13 pm | Permalink
  87. Magrat Garlick wrote:

    Awesome! Thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:14 pm | Permalink
  88. Feminist Spock wrote:

    Sady Doyle, you are this Vulcan’s shero.
    LLAP.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:16 pm | Permalink
  89. PatientC wrote:

    Grrr, NBC’s site is giving me grief, so here is what I wanted to post there…

    Thanks so much for this interview. I had my doubts that #MooreAndMe would be heard, and not from any lack of faith in Dr. Maddow: this was a special series (Leadership in America), there was a lot of news this week, the guests brought on were relevant to the previous, naming #MooreAndMe could cause trouble with friends/coworkers/show guests/network bigwigs… A lot of things were lined up against it, even without considering the actual topic itself. On the other hand, Maddow has a heart for social justice, and has readily recognized that while the internet is, well, the internet — it is also the fairly democratic tool of the people, and important things happen there.

    Thank you for addressing this at all. Please do not confuse the dissatisfaction with Mr. Moore being unable or unwilling to say that he was wrong with any dissatisfaction with the show or the interview. Many thanks to Dr. Maddow and to her patient staff (especially you, @WillAtWork). You all let a lot of people know that THEY MATTER, when volumes of voices were in opposition to them even to the point of issuing threats of violence.

    One picked nit: I rather think that in general we asked politely rather than demanded. =)

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:19 pm | Permalink
  90. London Susan wrote:

    I’ve been following this with gratitude and fascination. I may be wrong but I don’t think there has been any reporting in the UK about the Twitter campaign re Moore

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:22 pm | Permalink
  91. Traitorfish wrote:

    Is it too geeky to say that my first reaction to this was to think of Mal saying “We’ve done the impossible, and that makes us mighty”? Fuck it, I’ll say it anyway, because that’s a word-for-word accurate description of Sady & Co.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm | Permalink
  92. Fayra wrote:

    I lost count of how many times your posts made me tear up this week. Congratulations for this awesome, awesome work, dear.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Permalink
  93. I may have been a general critic of the #MooreAndMe campaign, but I’ve never attempted to disrespect it’s main goal of awareness about rape accusers. All I’m asking for is that judgment in this case be suspended until Assange is officially charged and we have an actual trial.

    Also…if someone is exploiting the matter to drop racial bombs such as the “n—-r breasts” smack, they should be condemned to the fullest. No legitimate progressive defending Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann or even Wikileaks would justify such racist nonsense.

    Would you, Sady, or the actual person who received that racial blast be willing to out the exact site where this was posted?

    Anthony

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:02 pm | Permalink
  94. manboobz wrote:

    Sady, thanks for your courage in pursuing this. Sad that it took all this effort (and that you and others had to put up with so much vile harassment) to get Moore to say the decent things he should have been saying from the start.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:11 pm | Permalink
  95. Randall wrote:

    I just want to say thank you again. You sacrificed a great deal, and no one asked you to do that, and you took it on yourself anyway. I saw what was going on, and was hardly ready to contribute in the small ways I did. You went all in… there’s just no end of my respect for that.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:12 pm | Permalink
  96. AndyG wrote:

    Congratulations and thank you!

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:17 pm | Permalink
  97. Katie wrote:

    So proud of you, impressed by you, and thankful for you and all of the others who put their hearts into this. Thank you, especially, for having the courage to be so emotionally open and honest about this. It’s a powerful thing.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:21 pm | Permalink
  98. Vertigo wrote:

    Sady, you are a rock star. I feel privileged to be part of all of this.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Permalink
  99. Renee wrote:

    @ 19

    No, because I was thinking the exact same thing. Guess we were proven wrong, eh?

    Congrats, Sady. The cynic in me has grown a heart.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:25 pm | Permalink
  100. Sady wrote:

    @Anthony: Streamofwikileaks.tumblr.com, which would appear to be down right now, possibly due to Tumblr’s very strict harassment policy & precedent of moving quickly on these things. The post is amended to reflect the exact site. Also: The post wasn’t just racist, it was blatantly misogynist and pro-rape. Why are you willing to ignore that part of it? Erasing that fact from your condemnation doesn’t do you any favors.

    As we’ve said many and many a time, we don’t know whether Assange is guilty. What we know is that (a) every rape allegation must be taken seriously, regardless of who the accused is, (b) these allegations have been misrepresented in order to minimize them, both in the press, and by Assange’s defense and fans, sometimes at the expense of the actual truth about them and with blatant lies (“sex by surprise?” Yeah, that NEVER EXISTED) and (c) it is not OK under any circumstances to out and thereby endanger the lives of the two women in question, as that WikiLeaks representative did, as Olbermann did, and as Moore did, no matter how much you like Assange, and (d) it is not OK to smear the two women, which that WikiLeaks representative did, as Olbermann did, as Moore did, and as Assange has done.

    We do not argue that Assange IS guilty. I don’t, at least. I also don’t argue that date-rape charges are rarely investigated with this much vigor, which is PART OF THE PROBLEM, and I will agree that there is a possibility that these charges, EVEN IF TRUE, are receiving more attention than they would if Assange were not the founder of WikiLeaks.

    What we argue, what I argue, is that Assange MAY be guilty, and if there is even the slightest possibility that two women HAVE BEEN RAPED, it is NOT permissible to act as if there is no such possibility, or to try and promote a media narrative that there is no such possibility, especially not if that endangers or hurts the women in question, because they MAY HAVE JUST BEEN RAPED, and also because every time someone sees someone else attacked, smeared, or harassed for alleging a rape, that person becomes less likely to report her own rape, and MORE RAPISTS GO FREE. The allegations have been made. The possibility exists. You must support this cause of ours, if you don’t just blatantly support the harassment of people who allege rape and rape survivors, because there is no excuse not to, and because we ask for so very, very little. Only that crimes alleged be investigated, even if they are rape, and even if the accused is someone working for a cause you support.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:40 pm | Permalink
  101. Laughingrat wrote:

    Well done! You did great work.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:41 pm | Permalink
  102. Maria wrote:

    but, we’re still going to hashtag and demand an apology right? cause he hasn’t actually admitted anything.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 7:47 pm | Permalink
  103. Artemis wrote:

    Thank you, Sady. This made me feel young and protesty again.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
  104. Bee wrote:

    There’s a wheel turning on muddy ground / Gains an inch every time it goes round.

    You are so amazing, Sady. Thank you for doing this.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 8:53 pm | Permalink
  105. Hannah wrote:

    I’m tearing up at my computer, which is not a thing I’m in the habit of doing. Thank you. A lot.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
  106. Xenu01 wrote:

    <3

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 9:22 pm | Permalink
  107. Yaz wrote:

    I feel so good about this I’ve run out of words. I promise to put my money where my mouth should be shortly.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 9:27 pm | Permalink
  108. Keshi wrote:

    Thank you so much Sady for standing up for women. Your posts have had me in tears a few times over the past week. Though I am not on twitter I sent an email to Michael Moore’s website and feel proud to have been part of this small yet important victory. Much love.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 9:42 pm | Permalink
  109. Meg Thornton wrote:

    Congratulations, Sady. You’re an inspiration to us all. I’ve been participating (even though I haven’t done too much – just collated links found in the twitter feed and sent the occasional tweet now and then), and it’s the first internet activism I’ve ever participated in. I admire your honesty in talking about the emotional, social and physical cost of the protest on yourself. I admire your work as a trans*-ally, working to ensure the protest helped all marginalised rape victims, not just some of them. I really admire your courage and activism, and your determination to stand up to the media bullies and say “no, this is not right”.

    You’re an inspiration to me, a goal to strive toward, and a goad to become a better person. And that’s really the best thing any one person can say about any other.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 10:11 pm | Permalink
  110. allreb wrote:

    I’m completely choked up. Thank you (and everyone else) who fought so hard for everything that you’ve done.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 10:13 pm | Permalink
  111. Spatula wrote:

    To Sady and everyone who participated in the campaign: my heartfelt thank you. Thank you for speaking up. You are all my heros, and Sady? You made the world better for me. I breathe easier and have more hope than I did a week ago. I am less afraid than I was a week ago. Thank you so, so much.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Permalink
  112. lightbird wrote:

    Thank you so much for everything you did, Sady. You’re awesome.

    Thanks to everyone who participated.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 11:04 pm | Permalink
  113. Wednesday wrote:

    All the best to you, Sady, and thank you for everything.

    Small steps, and still a long way to go, but you made such a difference.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 11:06 pm | Permalink
  114. SMadin wrote:

    Gnatalby:

    Sady I love TBD and I have been following and participating in #MooreandMe, but I have to say I feel like being done now is function of people being tired not us actually getting anything we wanted.

    I don’t really see where anyone said we were done. On twitter at least once, Sady’s said (I paraphrase) “one of #MooreandMe’s goals is ending rape culture; it’s a long term project”. If anyone has a right to be tired from this, if anyone deserves to take a break from this, Sady does, but cheerfully noting that we’ve made progress doesn’t equal sitting down and claiming we only ever meant to get this far, and no further, anyhow.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 11:18 pm | Permalink
  115. Mooreandme has done something surprising to me – it made me take a long look at my own experience as a rape survivor, and it made me stronger. You gave me a voice to speak it into the ether, and right this second, I feel vindicated. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

    Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 11:36 pm | Permalink
  116. Other Becky wrote:

    Craig Ranapia @68 (wow, I feel like I know you now via Twitter): re giving cookies for basic human decency — ever seen this? http://bit.ly/3eBa3

    These past few days have been AMAZING. I was talking to the spousal unit about this a couple of days ago, and he was skeptical that #mooreandme could actually achieve a real result. I told him that it was getting talked about, that the fact that a bunch of people think that certain ways of talking about rape are massively harmful was actually drawing some attention. That even if we never got any response from on high, getting people to talk about it was still a result. Then Jaclyn Friedman went up against Naomi Wolf, and I shuddered at the things coming out of Naomi’s mouth, but our point was getting out there. And THEN Jaclyn Friedman went on the BBC, and I was willing to consider that alone a win.

    And then came Moore on Maddow. (Thanks again to all who live-tweeted it for the MSNBC-deficient among us.) And yes, the things he said shouldn’t be stuff that makes lil ol’ me cry from relief — but the world we live in is such that I count it a victory. Somebody with a big following said on national prime-time television that rape accusations should be taken seriously, and that people guilty of rape deserve to go to prison even if they’re famous. (Hello, Hollywood? Were you listening?) Does it make some part of me sad that those statements made the rest of me very, very happy? Yes, it does.

    Thank you, Sady, and thank you to everyone who tweeted on #mooreandme. I got to help, just a little bit, to move a mountain, even if it was only three inches, and I’ll never forget it.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:24 am | Permalink
  117. April wrote:

    I didn’t follow much in real time, but as everything came to a sort-of close last night with the Maddow interview, I started to feel the weight of how important the #mooreandme campaign was. And how inspiring, to say the least. Thank you!

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:26 am | Permalink
  118. Daniel N wrote:

    Hi Sady,

    After watching Olbermann’s show with the Michael Moore interview, I remember being angry about their behaviour during the interview. I spoke to one of my friends, and she told me about your site and #Mooreandme. I would just like to say that I am so impressed with not only the quality of your blog, but the passion with which you infuse it with. Every time I read a post on your blog, I feel overwhelmed by the emotions you’re trying to convey. At the end of this post, I definitely yelled “Fuck yeah!”, complete with a fist pump. I’m so impressed by what you’ve accomplished (yes, it would’ve been nice to have gotten more, but I think #Mooreandme is still a success) and you have definitely added another feminist fanboy to your regular readership.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:34 am | Permalink
  119. Eva wrote:

    Wow, Sady. I just want you to know that you inspire me with your courage and grit. You are amazing, and I appreciate the chance to do a little bit with you. Thank you for the example & inspiration.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:56 am | Permalink
  120. orlando wrote:

    (especially to traitorfish, but in fact to all)
    CAN’T STOP THE SIGNAL.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 1:23 am | Permalink
  121. Gnatalby wrote:

    @SMadin: Sady didn’t say we weren’t done either. Considering the whole week we’ve had reminders to keep tweeting it seemed like a reasonable assumption that this was a victory post when, again, none of the original goals have been met.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 1:47 am | Permalink
  122. decodevo wrote:

    Sady, your courage and activism and compassion have done this survivor’s heart and soul so much good. Thank you.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 2:04 am | Permalink
  123. Andrew wrote:

    Just saw this while catching up on my RSS feed. FUCKING AWESOME, Sady. You and your work gives me hope. I want to believe that the cynicism and apathy I feel at my worst moments are unjustified; that I can make a difference. You gave me a reason to believe that. Thank you.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 2:11 am | Permalink
  124. Ennu wrote:

    Awesome post. Especially the last part about having hope. I really needed that because I was basically out of it until The Maddow/Moore interview. I was not expecting anything to go right, but it did. And I could not be happier to have been proven wrong.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 2:54 am | Permalink
  125. Patrick wrote:

    I am most likely as Conservative as you are liberal.

    But you did well here Ma’am.

    Kudos to you.

    -Pat

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 2:57 am | Permalink
  126. Jamie Browning wrote:

    Heroic work,thank you.
    Moore’s statement would have been
    fantastic if it was his initial statement.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 2:59 am | Permalink
  127. Craig Ranapia wrote:

    Craig Ranapia @68 (wow, I feel like I know you now via Twitter): re giving cookies for basic human decency — ever seen this? http://bit.ly/3eBa3

    OtherBecky: My dentist and Doctor ‘Your blood pressure is putting my kids through uni’ thanks you, because I had to go get some homemade double chocolate chips after that. :)

    But, seriously, fair points well made.

    And I’ll say this one more time: I’m not angry at #mooreandme or Sady or anyone else who has been standing up and saying “fuck no, rape culture has to go” at the top of their lungs.

    I’m angry at seeing people of honour and integrity being sprayed with hateful abuse and threats.

    I’m angry at people like Olbermann and Moore who have such a powerful bully pulpit they’d foully abused.

    I’m angry at people I know, love and respect who will slut-shame and demean abuse survivors, because they think I’m a man (and a conservative, Catholic man at that) so I must be on their wavelength. All the time, I’ve been thrown back into a place of shame and self-loathing and fear like the twenty four years since my rape (and the start of the long silence) never happened.

    But that the same time, I’ve got to challenge myself to keep that anger focused on the right target. To remember that something as evil and pervasive as rape culture isn’t going to be over-turned in a week.

    This week, as a gay man, I’ll celebrate 2010 as the year DADT was thrown into the trash can of history where it belonged. That happened because of people who fought for sixteen years — against hate, and lies, and being told by their own that their cause was a “distraction” from “real issues” and they needed to STFU and stop being “divisive”(sounds familiar?) FFS, in 2010 George W. Bush’s attorney general stood up and spoke loud and clear for marriage equality, the dignity of GLBT people and their families.

    It’s slow and painful and frustrating; but progress is progress. I need to remember that, and honour those who are are bloodied but never bowed.

    Which is a very long-winded way of saying, however frustrated I am I hope nobody thinks I’m pissing on standing against rape culture. I just wish that fucking mountain would collapse already. :)

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 3:53 am | Permalink
  128. of making many books wrote:

    Oh and guess what else! DADT repeal!!! Stark treaty! First responders bill! (No Dream Act :( .) But… maybe things are looking up? Maybe Sady is right about days getting lighter. <3

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 7:27 am | Permalink
  129. bob wrote:

    Congrats on inventing a new activism tool, the ‘twitter takedown’!

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 8:00 am | Permalink
  130. Kaethe wrote:

    Thank you, Sady, on behalf of us all.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 8:28 am | Permalink
  131. Napalmnacey wrote:

    I told you how I felt on my tumblr, but I’ll say it again – thanks with all my heart. These past few days have been incredible, and strangely rejuvinating.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 9:15 am | Permalink
  132. scyllacat wrote:

    Crying now (apparently with others). I’ve been sexually assaulted (not reported); I’ve had to reevaluate a friendship and someone I previously liked when he was arrested for sex crimes. Very little hits closer to home than people not taking these things seriously. Even if the charge (any charge) is fraudulent, it’s not a laughing matter, it’s not a matter for casual dismissal, it’s not a matter for random character assassination, much less personal endangerment.

    THANK YOU.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 9:38 am | Permalink
  133. Shora wrote:

    Sady, You’re a fucking paladin. Thank you so much for taking a stand, and inspiring me to stand up with you. Thank you so much for being brave, for standing against the tide of badness and rallying us all together to move that mountain. I was disappointed we didn’t get everything we asked for, but you’re right; we made a difference, which means we CAN make a difference, and this is the first time I have ever really believed that.

    So thank you, thank you so much you brave, brave woman.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 10:22 am | Permalink
  134. Robin wrote:

    I assume you already saw your props in this Slate article, but in case you didn’t…

    http://www.slate.com/id/2278906

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 10:50 am | Permalink
  135. PSue wrote:

    Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU. It’s the little tiny nuggets of hope (okay, this was the biggest fucking direct nugget I’ve ever seen, but you get my drift) that keep me ready and give me strength to fight the good fucking fight.

    Holy fucking SHIT this is awesome, and I hope you savor this business every time you feel hopeless. I know I certainly will.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 11:38 am | Permalink
  136. Reha wrote:

    Thank you for pushing so hard. This mountain wouldn’t have moved without your dedication.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 11:43 am | Permalink
  137. Jill Noelle wrote:

    Thank you Sady.
    Everyone who participated in this…thank you too. And not just those who tirelessly tweeted, blogged and gave whatever amount they could spare to anti-rape organizations, but also those who read and disseminated information, had discussions with friends, family and colleagues, and/or found the courage to share personal survival stories they might not have before an action like #Mooreandme.

    It’s not just national talking heads that change the world with an on air opinion, but also that small but important conversation between 2 human beings that pushes the door open just a little bit more. Thanks for letting the light in.
    (and if anyone is keeping a donation total, add 50 euros to the Clara Wichmann Instituut here in Amsterdam.)

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
  138. PJDee wrote:

    I’ve never commented here before, but I’m just so proud of you Sady! Thank you.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
  139. Athenia wrote:

    You are my hero Sady! Every little bit counts!

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:37 pm | Permalink
  140. Joan McKniff wrote:

    Thanks for your work. But please don’t ignore, if not deny, built on shoulders of older sisters as we did it for you, even more than ourselves. I am 70, have been fighting this for more than 50 years. No, it is not perfect. But yes it is better than it was in 40s and 50s. I know because I was there. Please don’t ignore and deny our work and progress. Thanks.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Permalink
  141. Noanodyne wrote:

    No kudos are too grand for you, Sady. Your tenacity, courage, and righteous fire have shown us the way and given us a brilliant model for future actions in this ongoing struggle.

    And speaking of which, we have some Naomi Wolf butt to kick (figuratively, of course) after that crap on Democracy Now.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Permalink
  142. Brav-fuckin-issima, Sady.

    Well done.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 1:46 pm | Permalink
  143. Melissa wrote:

    Thank you so much, Sady.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
  144. SMadin wrote:

    Gnatalby:

    Sady didn’t say we weren’t done either.

    Well, on the one hand, she did say this:
    And we still live in a rape culture; we’re still not done fighting it; the narrative around Assange, in particular, is still hugely misogynist and hugely dangerous for those two women and will still encourage rape survivors not to report. We didn’t get a full apology and correction from Michael Moore…
    which actually does include the words “we’re still not done.” And on the other hand, hasn’t Sady been saying all along that #MooreandMe isn’t just her, she isn’t the singular leader, it’s all of us choosing to fight? So why does it matter if she did or didn’t say “we’re not done” — to be blunt (and no disrespect meant, Sady!) it’s not up to her anyway. We’re not a top-down organization, we don’t take orders from her.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 3:09 pm | Permalink
  145. Gnatalby wrote:

    @SMadin:

    The question wasn’t whether the work of fighting rape culture is done, it’s whether the mooreandme campaign is done, and like it or not, Sady is pretty much the figurehead of that. I don’t think the campaign should be over because we didn’t actually get any of our objectives accomplished: getting michael moore to admit what he did was wrong and apologize for lying and possibly make a donation.

    Michael Moore hasn’t said he’s wrong or apologized for lying. All he did was talk about what a great guy he is for founding a rape crisis center.

    The misinformation is still out there with Michael Moore, guy who is so committed so rape victims that he founded a rape crisis center, backing it. Who is going to believe that that guy lied unless he says so?

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Permalink
  146. Kat wrote:

    Thank you, Sady. And thanks to all of those fantatic people who were relentless on Twitter. You all surprised and impressed me so much. I feel honored to have made my own small contribution to this big, important outpouring of frustration, outrage, hope, grief and ultimately, power. This has energized me to re-engage with the fight, which is a long one but after seeing everyone take up arms this week, I am feeling better about our odds.

    If nothing else, I know of so many more people out there who’ve got my back – and I’ve got y’all’s.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 4:31 pm | Permalink
  147. Sarah wrote:

    The non-140-character (and fewer than 1,000 words) version of my tweet earlier:

    You’re a good person. I wish I could have participated (sigh, workplace rules about participating in protests); in lieu of that: thanks for this. It’s scary how few people get it when it comes to rape allegations.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 6:35 pm | Permalink
  148. SMadin wrote:

    ugh, I screwed up the second blockquote in my previous comment.

    Anyway, I stand by what I said. I don’t think it’s really up to Sady whether #MooreandMe is over. I agree that it shouldn’t be.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 6:50 pm | Permalink
  149. Caroline wrote:

    Thank You to Sady and everyone else involved in fighting for what’s right.

    you have done the impossible and that makes you mighty!

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 7:02 pm | Permalink
  150. H wrote:

    FUCK YES, everything you said here.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 8:14 pm | Permalink
  151. mohmlet wrote:

    Thank you, Sady. Thank you.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 8:52 pm | Permalink
  152. Mimi wrote:

    Yes, thank you so much! I only lasted one day on twitter, because of bad triggering, so I can’t imagine how you’re feeling right now. What a horrible week! I’m wishing you a happy Winter Solstice celebration, and virturally sending you a carton of smokes to celebrate.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 9:43 pm | Permalink
  153. JeninCanada wrote:

    Fucking A! Thank you a thousand thousand times, for your time, patience, tears and words. Thank you.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 9:46 pm | Permalink
  154. onomatopoeia wrote:

    Sady is the figurehead, but she’s also one woman – a woman who needs sleep and nutrition and to take care of herself, which, in itself, is a radical act. The emotional and physical toll this protest has taken on her and many others is clearly evident.

    Sady lit a spark, but it’s not on her to keep the fire going. That’s our job. And I really want to continue the conversation about what #mooreandme can further do, but I just want to be really careful about not placing any extra burdens/blame on Sady.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 11:12 pm | Permalink
  155. onomatopoeia wrote:

    because she has done amazing work and inspired so many people, and is a wicked brilliant advocate for survivors. Like me. I meant all that to be implied in my last post, but expressing myself is apparently not one of my strengths. so. EXPLANATION.

    Thursday, December 23, 2010 at 11:18 pm | Permalink
  156. Rory wrote:

    Sady; you did a great great work.
    To cheer you up read about Iroquois culture; WHERE RAPE WAS UNKNOWN. Where women had rights, property, dignity,where gift-giving societies prospered. Barbara Alice Mann & Paula Gunn Allen. “Iroquoian Women” “The Sacred Hoop”

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 1:03 am | Permalink
  157. ifandbut wrote:

    Excuse me… referring to Mr. Moore as a “mountain” to be “moved” because he’s in your way. How about next time you try it without the fat hatred?

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 1:14 am | Permalink
  158. Chai Latte wrote:

    “We’ve done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.” –Mal Reynolds

    YAY! Hey, this girl’s grateful for those three inches! w00t!

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 10:54 am | Permalink
  159. darkdaughta wrote:

    i had the strangest experience. i was over at shrubblog looking for feminist blogs i hadn’t encountered before and came across someone who said that they were no longer going to read your blog because you were being mean. hehehe. i’ve been called mean for my views so many times that a woman being accused of being mean seems more like a reason to go check her out than to stay away. :) so i followed the link and came across the post about taylor swift. bang fucking on. then i decided to go check out what had been written more recently and came across this post. i’m glad i did.

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 11:03 am | Permalink
  160. laurakeet wrote:

    To Millicent and others, I wrote a letter to RAINN asking about the transphobic stories. On my blog I posted my letter, the initial response (which included RAINN’s non-discrimination policy–which doesn’t list gender identity or expression) and another response. It’s looking hopeful. I’m on Tumblr as thelaurakeet.

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 12:02 pm | Permalink
  161. Oddrid wrote:

    Thank you Sady. <3

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Permalink
  162. renniejoy wrote:

    Thank you for being so fucking awesome!!!

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 4:20 pm | Permalink
  163. Maria wrote:

    “yes, the things he said shouldn’t be stuff that makes lil ol’ me cry from relief — but the world we live in is such that I count it a victory.”

    No. Not when the aim of the campaign was to get Michael Moore to retract the dangerous information he’s put in the world, or at least retract his approval of it by apologising. He hasn’t DONE anything. We absolutely have to continue mooreandme.

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 4:52 pm | Permalink
  164. Ithiliana wrote:

    Sady: I just read your post at Tumblr about needing to step away for a while, and totally cheered. I posted a link to a Joanna Russ essay in my Dreamwidth/Livejournal because it’s something that it might be useful for people who want you to become the charismatic leader to read:

    Power and Helplessness in the Women’s Movement

    Joanna Russ

    FromMagic Mommas, Trembling Sisters, Puritans & Perverts (The Crossing Press, 1985)

    If you’ve been forbidden the use of your own power for your own self, you can give up your power or you can give up your self. If you’re effective, you must be so for others but never for yourself (that would be “selfish”). If you’re allowed to feel and express needs, you must be powerless to do anything about them and can only wait for someone else–a man, an institution, a strong woman–to do it for you.

    That is, you can be either a Magic Momma or a Trembling Sister.

    Magic Mommas are rare and Trembling Sisters are common; the taboo is so strong that it’s safer to be totally ineffective, or as near to it as is humanly possible. Moreover, election to the status of Magic Momma requires some real, visible achievement, which, in a male-dominated society, is rare. Nonetheless, every feminist group contains at least one Magic Momma; success being entirely relative, somebody can always be elevated to MM status. (If canny group members, aware of this possibility, refuse to do, say, or achieve anything, they can be chosen for past achievement, or smaller and smaller differences in behavior can be seized on as evidence of Magic Momma-hood.) Since we are all struggling with the Feminine Imperative, one of the ways achieving women combat the guilt of success is by agreeing to be Magic Mommas.

    * MMs give to others -eternally.
    * MMs are totally unselfish.
    * MMs have infinite time and energy.
    * MMs love all other women, always.
    * MMs never get angry at other women.
    * MMs don’t sleep.
    * MMs never get sick.

    If MMs don’t fulfill the above conditions, they feel horribly, horribly guilty. MMs know that they can never do enough.

    Like the Victorian mother, the Magic Momma pays for her effectiveness by renouncing her own needs. But these don’t go away. The MM feels guilt over her achievements, guilt over not doing more (in fact, this is the common female guilt over not doing everything for everyone), and the steadily mounting rage of deprivation, as well as the added rage caused by having to feel guilty all the time.

    Meanwhile the Trembling Sister has plenty to be enraged about too. Having avoided the guilt of being effective, she’s allowed to feel and express her own needs, but she pays for these “advantages” by an enforced helplessness which requires that somebody fill her needs for her, since she’s not allowed to do so herself.

    The trouble is that nobody can.

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 6:32 pm | Permalink
  165. Dominique wrote:

    Thank you. Just. Wow.

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Permalink
  166. carla wrote:

    Thank you, thank you, thank you so much.

    Friday, December 24, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Permalink
  167. Mark wrote:

    “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” — Margaret Mead

    Saturday, December 25, 2010 at 4:52 pm | Permalink
  168. mary lou bethune wrote:

    Yes, thank you.
    The world is changing and the women will lead the way.

    Saturday, December 25, 2010 at 5:31 pm | Permalink
  169. snobographer wrote:

    On NPR’s Morning Edition the other day, Assange or somebody representing him is now claiming the women were “bamboozled” into filing rape charges. So the new thing in rape apology – since we’ve established it’s not cool, this time, to paint the accusers as lying sluts – is to make them out to be victims of their own stupidity. Something to keep an eye out for.

    Saturday, December 25, 2010 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
  170. Alex wrote:

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who got tears in hir eyes that Michael Moore said what he needed to say. :)

    Saturday, December 25, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Permalink
  171. snobographer wrote:

    BTW, I was on a temp assignment all last week with no Internet access so I didn’t even hear about your twitter protest until today. I wish I’d been able to participate. I also wish Moore had acknowledged you and his previous misstatements more publicly, but I suppose I’ll take what I can get, for now.

    Sunday, December 26, 2010 at 12:38 am | Permalink
  172. Heather wrote:

    Thank you so much, Sady, for everything that you have done.

    Sunday, December 26, 2010 at 10:08 am | Permalink
  173. Kristin wrote:

    Thank you sady for giving us all hope, and being a beautiful brave example of what it means to stand up for yourselves and your cause without accepting “good enough” as all that’s needed.
    Thank you for helping us sustain a standard in the feminist community as well as media supporters requiring truth in broadcast journalism.

    Your blog means so much to me, and I’m so proud of you for all you’ve done. You’ve given me hope for the future, and that’s the truth sady. that’s the best truth of all.

    Sunday, December 26, 2010 at 11:20 pm | Permalink
  174. Tony wrote:

    From my heart to your blog, it seems. It’s easy for us men, especially us men of the ‘Left’, to espouse womens’ equality when it involves no self-criticism, no learning, no listening, and no sacrifice. When all that is required is to point the finger at someone else, be he Muslim or Republican. This kind of rhetorical anti-sexism means nothing. Absolutely nothing. Only when it involves ourselves or one of our heroes, only when it requires some cognitive dissonance, is it significant. That is the test of whether we really understand and hold the values we claim, and without our values we are nothing. Thank you for calling out Olbermann and Moore. Take some time to savor this small victory. But still, a “basic human right” as you say has now been relegated to the “Left of the Left.” We are on the margins even in ‘Progressive’ circles. Some people just are not on our side, and will never be. At best, there is a long road ahead; more likely, this is a war that will never end. Peace, sister.

    Monday, December 27, 2010 at 12:10 am | Permalink
  175. Kay wrote:

    Wow, I have so much respect for what you’ve done. This is great news!

    Monday, December 27, 2010 at 2:11 am | Permalink
  176. I found this very moving, and very important too. I hope a lot of people remember what happened here. Thank you.

    Tuesday, December 28, 2010 at 6:11 pm | Permalink
  177. wilywoman wrote:

    Thank you, Sady. Thank you for me and for all of the women that I care about, and all of the men that I care about. Thank you for using your immense strength for something so big. I wish you rest and recovery and look forward to the efforts ahead.

    Friday, December 31, 2010 at 1:07 am | Permalink
  178. alex wrote:

    You inspire me.

    Saturday, January 1, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Permalink
  179. RachelB wrote:

    I’ve been away from my computer for a while and missed this when it ran, but I wanted to jubilate a bit that he came down. To Sady, and to #MooreandMe: Thank you, and you are awesome and impressive.

    Sunday, January 2, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Permalink
  180. Magdalene wrote:

    Thank you Sady, from the bottom of my heart. I broke down crying as I read this. I cried tears of sadness and of hope and of joy over a victory that we shouldn’t have to risk our physical safety to achieve. Thank you indeed.

    Friday, January 7, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Permalink
  181. Kat wrote:

    This pertains more to rape denial that’s occurring apart from #MooreandMe, but I was wondering, Sady, if you’re familiar with Rap News, Juice Media and this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ&feature=player_embedded
    It could have been so good, but the treatment of Hilary as shrill and uncaring combined with the dismissive mention of the allegations make it disappointing that it’s getting so much good press.

    Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 1:18 am | Permalink